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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 25, 2015 19:49:07 GMT
Hello,
Does anyone has this subspecies in his collection. Semperi is amazing group from Philippines, and I have seen many of subspecies presented in private collections, but for this subspecies I never seen any in collections.
Do you maybe have it and show me please. I appreciate that.
Nevertheless can you tell me more about other semperi subspecies, I want to learn more about them.
Thank you.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Mar 25, 2015 20:11:56 GMT
I have two pairs of baglantis, dated 1987-1991. I haven't noticed whether there are any for sale recently, but I've just checked Andreas Mueller's website and he has a female listed. Unfortunately, I only have one female set; the others are all papered. I'll try to remember to set and photograph them for you sometime soon.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 25, 2015 22:23:54 GMT
I don't have any specimens of baglantis but here's my current listing of the subspecies with type localities in ( ):
melanotus (Staudinger, 1889) (Palawan)
= melanotatus D’Abrera, 1982 [Incorrrect Subsequent Spelling]
albofasciata (Semper, 1892) (Mindoro)
semperi (C. Felder & R. Felder, 1861) (Luzon)
sorsogona Page & Treadaway, 1996 (Sorsogon, nr Bulusan, S. Luzon)
baglantis (Rothschild, 1908) (Negros)
imogene Schröder & Treadaway, 1979 (Sibuyan)
lizae Schröder & Treadaway, 1984 (Mt. Balog, Antique, Panay)
supernotatus (Rothschild, 1895) (Bohol)
aphthonia (Rothschild, 1908) (Mindanao)
justini Page & Treadaway, 2003 (Near Milagros, Masbate)
Adam.
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 26, 2015 6:36:57 GMT
Thank you 'deliasfanatic' for your reply and thanks for infornation. When you can and when you take picture of your female. You can upload her. I appreciate that.
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 26, 2015 6:51:33 GMT
I don't have any specimens of baglantis but here's my current listing of the subspecies with type localities in ( ): melanotus (Staudinger, 1889) (Palawan) = melanotatus D’Abrera, 1982 [Incorrrect Subsequent Spelling] albofasciata (Semper, 1892) (Mindoro) semperi (C. Felder & R. Felder, 1861) (Luzon) sorsogona Page & Treadaway, 1996 (Sorsogon, nr Bulusan, S. Luzon) baglantis (Rothschild, 1908) (Negros) imogene Schröder & Treadaway, 1979 (Sibuyan) lizae Schröder & Treadaway, 1984 (Mt. Balog, Antique, Panay) supernotatus (Rothschild, 1895) (Bohol) aphthonia (Rothschild, 1908) (Mindanao) justini Page & Treadaway, 2003 (Near Milagros, Masbate) Adam. Thank you Adam for giving this useful information. Do you maybe have ssp. justini and imogene presented in your collection? I have seen one of your collections and you have very well detailed data. Regards |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 26, 2015 8:30:42 GMT
I don't have justini or imogene, unfortunately. Specimens are rather har to obtain from some Philippine islands. Probably there are no local catchers there.
As for specimen data, it really depends on what information came with each specimen. It is important not to add anything to the data that is not definitive, particularly personal speculation.
Adam.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Mar 26, 2015 13:19:46 GMT
I'm also missing justini and imogene, as well as sorsogona. As Adam says, many of the more remote Philippines islands (and parts of the larger islands) are seldom collected, making certain subspecies much more difficult to obtain than others.
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 26, 2015 13:50:40 GMT
I don't have justini or imogene, unfortunately. Specimens are rather har to obtain from some Philippine islands. Probably there are no local catchers there. As for specimen data, it really depends on what information came with each specimen. It is important not to add anything to the data that is not definitive, particularly personal speculation. Adam. Yes I know that specimens from that lonely tropical islands are hard to obtain. I only wish I have one  Your comment about data. That is true for sure. As in other threads where is theme about museums and donating collections. Everyone is looking that your specimens has clear data. Specimen quality is not important. Marko |
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 26, 2015 13:55:37 GMT
I'm also missing justini and imogene, as well as sorsogona. As Adam says, many of the more remote Philippines islands (and parts of the larger islands) are seldom collected, making certain subspecies much more difficult to obtain than others. Yes that's right. In that reason I make this thread and I was expecting that someone who maybe has that seldom subspecies show us here. But I think we need to be patient little bit more Marko |
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 26, 2015 16:29:22 GMT
Very interesting Jan, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us !
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 26, 2015 17:51:31 GMT
Jan very nice, that is kind of answers I'm looking for.
Very interesting is that ssp. semperi flyies above the canopy and on high altitudes, but today you can find it very common on market and you can buy it for little money, but for sure that is bred material.
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on Mar 27, 2015 10:16:19 GMT
Yes, it is indeed interesting that spp. semperi reach higher in the north Luzon mountains. At a certain spot in Mountain province, I have observed ssp. semperi flying along side with Pieris canidia, Lexias hikarugenzi, Argyreus hyperbius sagada and Vanessa cardui. It is a funny experience to see such an exotic species like Atroph. semperi flying next to a common "backyard species" like Vanessa cardui. You can find a online species/subsp. list (needs some updates though!) on Philippine butterflies here. Thank you very much for giving this interesting informations sir |
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