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Post by daveuk on May 6, 2015 19:53:09 GMT
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Post by daveuk on May 6, 2015 19:53:51 GMT
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Post by timmsyrj on May 13, 2015 15:57:24 GMT
Nice specimens Dave, Thanh is getting some good quality specimens at the moment, I've seen, and been outbid on some nice ABBs also.
Have you got a fruhstorferi yet mate? He's promised me one for the help I've given him in locating them. Not got it yet though.
Rich
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Post by daveuk on May 21, 2015 20:15:10 GMT
Hi Rich I have been drooling over all those wonderful specimens of Thanh's & I did manage to secure one good specimen of S fruhstorferi which I am very pleased about. I've also won several pretty good eamesi . I am amazed at the variation in the specimens offered.. astounding !! Dave |
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Post by timmsyrj on Jun 6, 2015 7:30:26 GMT
I have also got a male fruhstorferi ( a gift from him) the prices are quite high for them but they have not been available for many years, like eamsei, uemurai and others the prices will drop, he is getting quite a lot and flooding the market a little, I see quite a lot back on ebay and mis identified for even higher prices one was called stichophthalma antonia with data from Vietnam ( antonia is from Myanmar (Burma) and is possibly a synonym of louisa louisa as the type locality is just over the border from Tak province) certainly miles away from Vietnam. The same seller also lists uemurai gailai, it may be gailai but as he gets his stuff from Thanh and Thanh has yet to go to Gai Lai province it's doubtful, I'd like to see the underside of the specimens for sale.
Rich
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Post by daveuk on Jun 30, 2015 16:08:33 GMT
Two new additions from the same locality in Vietnam.. I think the bottom one is S eamesi..not so sure about the top one though. Attachments:
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Post by daveuk on Jun 30, 2015 16:09:33 GMT
Verso of the same specimens Attachments:
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 1, 2015 9:18:01 GMT
Dave, I'm pretty sure they're both eamsei, some specimens are much lighter ground colour than others, the amount of white and blue tinge also varies quite considerably.
Specimens from Ba Na are extremely variable both in size and colouration, there is eamsei on there for sure, but I think there is some hybrids, possibly with mathilda but even those are nothing like the specimens coming from Nghe An province.
eamsei from Gia Lai is lighter with much reduced white hindwing margins, hardly any white inside the black sub marginal markings and wide black margins.
Have you seen Stichophthalma suffusa tonkiniana on eBay, quite a few appearing from the Tam Dao mountains though they are yet to locate the fruhstorferi colonies there.
Rich
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Post by daveuk on Jul 1, 2015 14:27:15 GMT
Hi Rich Thanks for that.. you are, as always, a wealth of knowledge/information on all things Sticophthalma.  I think that you have also answered another of my questions too without knowing it.. I was wondering what species this one is-(see picture)-sounds like it's S suffusa tonkiniana-the data for this specimen is for PU MAT MT. NGHE AN pro 1000m 05/2015 . I have a few more of this one & S eamesi on the way plus a female S fruhstorferi..the males of that species are surprisingly small for this genus I think. Attachments:
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 1, 2015 18:04:30 GMT
That one I believe is actually Stichophthalma mathilda, the same as those I have from Laos, I don't think the howqua group are that far south and the location is not far from the border with Laos.
From photos I've seen tonkiniana doesn't have as much white in the forewing, most specimens have none they are more yellow in this area, some females have quite a bit of white in the forewing apex area but not this much.
Rich
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Post by daveuk on Jul 1, 2015 19:32:40 GMT
Thanks again for all the information Rich. If that is S mathilda it's a new species for my collection so I'm delighted. I have these S. Howqua from China I got from Ken Thorne a few years back-a male & two females. The data for these is Dabaiyan Mt. 3000 m. Lushan, W Sichuan July 1999. What subspecies do you think they are ? Thanks Dave Attachments:
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 1, 2015 20:25:10 GMT
From Sichuan they should be Stichopthalma howqua suffusa ( or nowadays Stichophthalma suffusa suffusa ), some of mine are from lushan.
I've just had 20 specimens of tonkiniana from Tam Dao and 10 from Yen Bai province which should be tonkiniana also, Thanh sent me 3 pairs from Pu Mat, Nghe An prov as a thanks for helping him locate them, I also got a male fruhstorferi for giving him a location for them, though hasn't found them there ( mt. Pu Mat ?? ) he found them near the location he gets eamsei from.
Rich
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 1, 2015 20:48:25 GMT
Hi Rich Thanks for that.. you are, as always, a wealth of knowledge/information on all things Sticophthalma.
Dave, watch your spelling, there's an "H" missing, you know what Oliviers like with missing H's, he must be away, he's not seen it yet...  Rich |
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Post by wollastoni on Jul 1, 2015 20:51:03 GMT
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Post by daveuk on Jul 2, 2015 7:11:26 GMT
I'm ALWAYS missing that "h"
Apologies guys & thanks again Rich for all the information.
Dave
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