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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 12:36:12 GMT
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Post by wollastoni on Feb 12, 2015 12:44:25 GMT
Splendid !
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 12, 2015 16:59:43 GMT
very nice Dunc, ain't got this one yet so well done mate.
Rich
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Post by nomad on Feb 12, 2015 17:09:18 GMT
Very nice, super species and specimens.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 12, 2015 18:59:38 GMT
I assume these superb butterflies are from Bougainville, as that's where pretty much all meeki on the market are coming out of. I have a few myself, and am always amazed when I think back to not so many years ago when this was one of those species that was impossible to obtain.
Adam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 19:21:19 GMT
Yes, they are from Bougainville, advertised as ssp inexpectatum, the only one apart from these that I have seen "in the flesh" was in Clive Pratt's collection.
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Post by terry2014 on Feb 13, 2015 13:35:04 GMT
Very nice specimens Dunc. Maybe if I wait long enough I will have a pair one day. Are you and your son creating separate collections. Adam, are these being bred now. Terry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 13:36:34 GMT
Yes, my son and I have seperate collections.
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Post by wollastoni on Feb 13, 2015 13:59:08 GMT
Hope my son will be a collector too !
He is only 2 year old but one of his favorite image book is a d'Abrera !
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 13, 2015 14:18:55 GMT
a good colouring book, maybe he can label them up correctly, I've only got 2 volumns and there are quite a few errors.
Rich
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 13, 2015 15:02:48 GMT
Adam, are these being bred now. Terry. Terry, I doubt it, although it is possible that larvae or pupae could be collected to let them emerge in captivity. Graphium species are generally much more difficult to breed in captivity than Papilio species, both on foodplant requirements and space needed in a flight cage for mating. At best these are probably ex wild collected pupae, but more likely they are wild caught as adults. I breed Graphium antiphates, doson & agamemnon here, but it can be very hit and miss even with the right foodplants. I have not had much success with Graphium sarpedon at all, but sometimes find larvae which I can rear to adults. However they generally refuse to mate in a cage (and I don't mean a small cage, mine are ~5 x 3 metres x 2 1/2m high). Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Feb 13, 2015 15:10:32 GMT
G. sarpedon is a fast flyer who loves flying a lot. Not a cool and calm Papilio.
No wonder he's hard to breed in a cage, he can't be happy in there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 15:11:44 GMT
My son is 28, he has been doing field work with me for over 20 years but has only took up collecting in the last 2.
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Post by bobw on Feb 13, 2015 15:38:55 GMT
Adam
Can Graphium not be hand-paired, like most Papilio?
Bob
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 13, 2015 17:30:31 GMT
They probably can be hand-paired, but then you have the problem of persuading them to lay eggs. Graphium normally only lay eggs on or inside the folds of fresh growing shoots on the right species of foodplant. Some species, such as the ones I listed above will lay in my cages, given plants at exactly the right stage of growth, but others won't.
Interestingly I had similar problems with Lamproptera curius which although tiny in size requires a lot of space to fly in.
Adam.
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