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Post by wollastoni on Mar 29, 2016 13:08:49 GMT
Hm, I don't really understand eBay . Why bidder a***a bid $231.00 and bid him self again $711.00 ? I guess he saw his bid was "under attack" from other buyer bids and thus raised his max bid to avoid losing the item. Anyway he didn't raise it enough as at the end of the game he was overbidded by another buyer. My advice on ebay : put your max bid right from the beginning and stop looking at it until the end... otherwise you will become crazy and sell your home for a bug.
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Post by nomad on Mar 29, 2016 13:26:51 GMT
I am seeing three last bidders on this auction, t~9 coming in with a bid of 288.50 then a~a jumps to 711? ( Why) with h~e beating him at 728.
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 29, 2016 13:36:39 GMT
No, check the date a-a put the 711 USD bid one day before t-9.
When t-9 put his bid at 228 USD, a-a was still the highest bidder at 229 USD, thanks to his 711 max bid.
Prices skyrocketted when h--e enter in the game with a bid above 721 USD. We will never know his max bid, maybe above 1000 USD.
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Post by africaone on Mar 29, 2016 14:38:20 GMT
when posting it, I never thought 1 sec that there is something wrong in the bidding and I am sure all is correct. I am surprised by the reactions as this price is high but not so ... just unsusual. Insect over 750 $ are plenty and as far as i know it is far from the record for a sphingid (around 2500 $). It was not so obvious to see that it was a sphingid for a on specialist and sure that Than not put it knowing it was sphingid (value of sphingid are better than most moths). and as sometimes he obtained low price for some rarity (the rule of bid), it is normal he can get high sum sometimes for such good surprises, and I am happy for him. I add that if it is really new (what I believe, if not, it must be a real rarity), it is far from the sum obtained on eBay to have his own name an insect.
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Post by nomad on Mar 29, 2016 14:54:18 GMT
I do not think some people here, including me were surprised by the sum which is quite small compared to say rare Papilios or Delias, or certain big beetles and others. I guess it was the seller had not a clue what he had, no name, wrong family .That's the real surprise that people would pay a lot for this specimen without it being named . Congratulations to the owner if he is reading this and having a jolly good laugh at our expense
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Post by africaone on Mar 29, 2016 17:06:40 GMT
I do not think some people here, including me were surprised by the sum which is quite small compared to say rare Papilios or Delias, or certain big beetles and others. I guess it was the seller had not a clue what he had, no name, wrong family .That's the real surprise that people would pay a lot for this specimen without it being named . Congratulations to the owner if he is reading this and having a jolly good laugh at our expense I discovered this auction via the "Top insect auction" (I recognised immediately it was a sphingid and was curious as I never seen a such species) and surely I had never seen it without CS
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 29, 2016 17:37:29 GMT
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Post by africaone on Mar 29, 2016 17:51:41 GMT
I don't the algorithm it uses .. but tell us, isn't necessary that at least two people bet it before it can appear ?
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 29, 2016 17:57:19 GMT
At least one bid
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Post by africaone on Mar 29, 2016 19:34:18 GMT
how it choose then the auction ?
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Post by africaone on Mar 31, 2016 4:59:39 GMT
how it choose then the auction ? is there any man action ? otherwise, choosing so nice or special auction must the hand of the devil
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 31, 2016 7:25:11 GMT
Everything is automatic in the Top Auctions In the genus pages, I filter auctions to remove some undesirable auctions : for example, if a Vietnamese seller advertise a specimen like "Papilio, Charaxes, Saturniidae", you won't see his specimen on the Papilio, Charaxes or Saturniidae pages. I also try and remove stamps, figurines and so on. On the Mecynorrhina page, you will also find badly writen Mecynorhina, and so on. It took me more than one year to create efficient filters but now it works fine, and more and more people are using Collector's Secret. It is a nice adventure. If some of you have some special requests/needs, just write to me in PM I can also create a page with all the genera you collected, like this page I did for Thierry : www.collector-secret.com/index.php/personnal-search/africaone/
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 4, 2016 17:50:07 GMT
The specimen seems close to a species of Dysodia (Thyrididae) which occurs in Nepal. I was shown a photograph of a specimen today, which I cannot post here. The forewing shape and pattern is very similar indeed, but not absolutely identical. Unfortunately the specimen from Nepal has no abdomen as it has been removed for genitalia preparation, so I don't know if it also has those black spots on the dorsal surface.
Adam.
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Post by africaone on Apr 6, 2016 17:35:46 GMT
Everything is automatic in the Top Auctions In the genus pages, I filter auctions to remove some undesirable auctions : for example, if a Vietnamese seller advertise a specimen like "Papilio, Charaxes, Saturniidae", you won't see his specimen on the Papilio, Charaxes or Saturniidae pages. I also try and remove stamps, figurines and so on. On the Mecynorrhina page, you will also find badly writen Mecynorhina, and so on. It took me more than one year to create efficient filters but now it works fine, and more and more people are using Collector's Secret. It is a nice adventure. If some of you have some special requests/needs, just write to me in PM I can also create a page with all the genera you collected, like this page I did for Thierry : www.collector-secret.com/index.php/personnal-search/africaone/ the biggest default is that the eBay.be seems not include what is strange is that it seems that it is often the seems dealers came back even with only one bid. vietnamense have hundreds auction, how does a machine choose the most strange ? the devil hand
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Post by africaone on Apr 6, 2016 17:40:55 GMT
The specimen seems close to a species of Dysodia (Thyrididae) which occurs in Nepal. I was shown a photograph of a specimen today, which I cannot post here. The forewing shape and pattern is very similar indeed, but not absolutely identical. Unfortunately the specimen from Nepal has no abdomen as it has been removed for genitalia preparation, so I don't know if it also has those black spots on the dorsal surface. Adam. you probably got the email from Ian kitching with the photos of two specimens quite close to this from the auction. unbelievable that it has been confused with a Thyrididae (the specimen of the auction is so obviously a sphingid) ... unfortunely the two specimens from NHM are without abdomen and then one cannot see if they also have the two black spots on it. anyway they are so close to it
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