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Post by Paul K on Sept 17, 2015 6:25:54 GMT
My first drawer of Thai and Lao butterflies. Collected mainly in peninsular Thailand and Central Laos. No rarities but they are all priceless to me.  Paul |
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Post by nomad on Sept 17, 2015 18:41:43 GMT
Very nice Paul.  |
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Post by timmsyrj on Sept 17, 2015 18:41:58 GMT
Priceless indeed, self caught and all 6 tails still on those fabulous club tails, great condition, very well done, all species are common, you just have to find where and when.
Rich
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Post by cabintom on Sept 17, 2015 19:06:04 GMT
Great drawer! Thanks for showing us.  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Sept 17, 2015 20:12:24 GMT
Very nice drawer of wild collected material Paul ! Hopefully, your good fortune continues in finding such clean examples.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 18, 2015 6:59:59 GMT
Splendid indeed !
And I guess some of them were hard to catch even if they are common species. Those red Appias must be very fast flyers for example.
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Post by Paul K on Sept 18, 2015 17:39:06 GMT
Thank you all for nice comments.
All species are common indeed , but as you said Rich you have to be at the right place and time.
For example:
Losaria coon is common but I have drive and look for butterflies 300 km or so and I found them only at one spot . Believe it or not it was side of the busy road surrounded by rubber tree plantation and some golf club resort , not one of the remaining virgin forest as you would think. They where attracted to flowers of some kind of midium size pea family shrubs ( at least they look a like but I am very bad botanist ). They were two colours: red and yellow but they definitely like the red flowers.
I believe Adam would know more about this plant.
About twenty or so specimens were flying around so I could have choice to select the best , fresh specimens. Although I was there couple of days too late as the males were almost all older and damaged. Females they must to emerged few days after males as they were much fresher specimens.
Papilio memnon. One of the most common swallowtails in SE Asia. They are almost everywhere ( except Bangkok , never seen it here ) but good luck to find a clean specimen.
With such a large size it probably needs couple of hours to mark its velvet black blue wings.
Appias nero. Yes they are very fast flyers, luckly they are attracted to mud but still quick move of the net must do in order to catch one. Graphium sp they are very fast flyers too and not easy to net even when mud puddling.
Now I am off in eastern part of Thailand in search of some more " beauties "
Paul
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Post by Paul K on Oct 11, 2015 8:38:17 GMT
Troides aeacus aeacus Troides aeacus is the commonest birdwing species in Thailand and perhaps Laos. You can enjoy flying couples among the top of the trees in most habitats. In the morning hours they sometimes fly down in search for some flowers so they can feed on. Nearby our cabin we stayed there were at least 20 couples and that last for about a week. T.aeacus is not protected in Thailand although I have not collected one as they are covered by CITES app.2 therefor bringing it to Canada could be an issue. I found in many souvenir stores framed Triodes sp. for sale. I believe many tourist will buy them and no realize they have to smuggle their beautiful butterfly back to their country.  Male of T.aeacus  My date with female of T.aeacus Paul |
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Post by nomad on Oct 11, 2015 8:57:29 GMT
Very nice pictures Paul. I think you were quite sensible and although the Troides is a common species, if it a Cites two Birdwing perhaps not worth the trouble. It does surprise me that ' people are still catching and selling Teinopalpus without permits . A very risky thing to do, I believe Rich mentioned this in my Juvisy thread.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 12, 2015 10:14:23 GMT
Daphnis nerii I was always fascinated and very excited when I found new specimen of Sphingidae moth. My first ever collected Sphinx moth was Mimas tiliae when I was 13 years old boy. I had spotted it resting during the day on the building wall near the street lamp most likely attracted to the light in previous night. I remember that moment as it was just yesterday. Few days ago shortly after my birthday I have noticed a birthday gift inside my flower pot ( Impatiens wallerana ) at my place in Bangkok: six almost full grown larvae of Daphnis nerii. Delighted of my founding I covered them with net and now they are almost ready to pupating .  Fully grown larvae  Ready to pupal stage. P.S. I will have to go in 3 weeks time for period of 5 weeks back to Canada. As i have only experience of rearing northern species of Sphingidae moths which pupae go thru overwintering stage for few months I am wondering if some members know how long usually last pupa of D.nerii ? Paul |
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Post by trehopr1 on Oct 13, 2015 2:15:17 GMT
That's pretty awesome Paul seeing a butterfly that big just fluttering about doing it's thing in nature. Different than seeing it in some butterfly house. I too agree with Nomad that it's probably best not bringing any to Canada. I'm sure that both the Canadian customs and American customs lock up rooms have probably got Troides and Trogonoptera frames stacked like cordwood on some shelves or in some dusty corner. Papered butterflies probably fill a trash gurney.
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Post by cabintom on Oct 13, 2015 8:06:14 GMT
Bringing papered (non-CITES) butterflies back into Canada proved to be relatively painless when I did it last year. I went through Pearson airport (Toronto) and it seemed like the customs officials didn't know exactly what to do when I was upfront in declaring them. I almost needed to walk the official (and his supervisor) through the government webpages that have the policies quite clearly spelled out. Those officials had never dealt with this previously, which I find surprising for our country's highest volume airport. Basically, they had me open a couple paper triangles to show the contents, and pull up a spreadsheet I had on my computer of the various species I had collected. I asked them how I could go about making the process easier the next time around and they asked that I come with printed list of the species I'm importing and with the link to the relevant policies. Admittedly, it probably helped that there aren't any African species on CITES. In all it took about 30 minutes, and the majority of that was because of the officer's initial confusion.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 13, 2015 8:54:42 GMT
Tom
As far as I understand there is no law requires to declare dead insects bringing to Canada unless they are covered by CITES. According to TEA :
Dead Insects
The government's advice is to declare all dead insects you are bringing into Canada. You may have to show that the specimens are not on the CITES list of endangered species; importing dead specimens of these species is an offence. Call the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for more information.
If this is only an advice it is not the law nor rule.
I went thru all government customs pages and I couldn't find any information in regards dead insects.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
Paul
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Post by cabintom on Oct 13, 2015 11:11:09 GMT
Paul, you'll want to read through: www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990Of note is the first paragraph: " Travellers are required, by law, to declare all plant, animal, and food items they bring into Canada. This includes items related to plants, animals and food, or their by-products." So we are required by law to declare any butterflies we're bringing with us. (If I recall correctly, the declaration card you fill out on the plane before landing has a check box for plant and animal matter.) EDIT: Though beyond that, if the specimens aren't CITES listed, there are no other regulations (that I've been able to find) that we must follow. |
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Post by cabintom on Oct 13, 2015 11:44:11 GMT
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