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Post by wollastoni on Jun 27, 2015 18:28:38 GMT
Agrias have always fascinated insect collectors for their beauty, their variations and their rarity.
It is a highly variable genus, some species like phalcidon or pericles, have many different local forms, some are extremely rare in collections. Agrias still worth a lot, as most species are not bread, as you can catch them only with bait traps, and as they often live in restricted countries like Brazil.
They are really the gems of Charaxinae.
Here is a picture from my Agrias collection with two interesting Agrias phalcidon phalcidon form subpaulus (2nd row, bottom specimens) from Jurity, Brazil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 19:02:21 GMT
 need to take more pictures of my agrias but I still have a couple on file, here are my agrias amydon smalli pair. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 19:04:49 GMT
 grias phalcidon fournierae f viola. |
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Post by daveuk on Jun 27, 2015 20:47:25 GMT
Some of my Agrias.....including A sardanapalus & A narcissus Attachments:
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 28, 2015 7:42:20 GMT
Some other Agrias from my collection, including Agrias sardanapalus croesus and 2 ssp. of Agrias narcissus.
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Post by miguelon on Jan 14, 2016 12:31:34 GMT
This is my agrias amydon boliviensis female
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Post by Admin on Jan 14, 2016 12:36:14 GMT
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 14, 2016 12:39:22 GMT
You all mean Prepona ?  I have seen some hybrids of the classical Prepona and Agrias and they are very interesting. I do not have any of them in my collection, too expensive for me. |
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 14, 2016 13:12:59 GMT
lol Claude !  No, I meant "Agrias". Not because a scientist has decided after having studied 0.000000001% of their respective DNA that they are very close, that they are the same genus ! I see strong and clear differences between both genera. And about hybrids, I have seen some too, they are great. Troides and Ornithoptera do also hybridize. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2016 15:34:39 GMT
I haven't seen the analysis of Prepona and Agrias DNA, but if it shows that Agrias arises within Prepona then there are two choices, either synonymise Agrias into Prepona (assuming this is the older name) or keep Agrias as a genus and split Prepona into at least two genera.
It is also possible that Agrias is not a real monophyletic genus (which means that it doesn't have a single common ancestor exclusively with all the other species in the genus) and different Agrias species were shown to belong to different branches of Prepona, and not actually directly related to each other. If that is the case, then Agrias as previously understood is not a 'real' genus.
Adam.
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I have seen some hybrids of the classical Prepona and Agrias and they are very interesting. I do not have any of them in my collection, too expensive for me.
