understand the CITES export and import procedure

[Paul K]

Importing appendix 2 species not required CITES import permit .However some countries required import permit but it is not by CITES regulation. Only for appendix 1 specimen both export/import permit is required . Appendix 1 specimen can not be for trade. The permit can be issued for export/import for scientific purpose only.

Paul

[timmsyrj]

The U.K requires import permit for CITES appendix 2 species, the fee was £25 per species ( covers all included sub species ), and requires that you state that the material is for trade or private collection / study, if trade additional import duty is charged, I bought 6 sub species of priamus ( posiedon, admiralitatus, demophanes, caelestis, urvillianus and bornemanni ) into the U.K on one permit a few years ago and chimaera, goliath ( 2 sub species ),victoriae and meridionalis all on separate permits so the 5 permits cost me £125. With customs fees, clearing agent fees and import duty I ended up paying an additional £480 on top of the original order value of £1200.
I did have around 150 pairs so at around £12 per pair on average it was still a very good deal, the only down side I regret on this shipment , I only bought 1 pair of meridionalis meridionalis as I was asked at one of the shows if I could get it, I ordered one pair with the intention of selling it and getting 2 pairs, selling them and getting 4pairs etc.. So I sold the pair, ordered 2 more and IFTA closed, I don't now have the nominate in my collection and getting them now is near impossible.

Rich

P.S just like to add you don't require import permit within the EU if buying from a seller in the EU only a copy of there import paper. Which must show the stamp of import customs authority for them to be legally imported.

i remember one of my parcels came straight through to me and I had to send it back to the clearing agent at Heathrow to get the import papers stamped so I could legally sell them at the Kettering entomological show.

[wollastoni]

Useful article, thank you Jan.

[Paul K]

I can see UK is making importing more difficult then CITES office and add extra cost on top of it.
Are they all EU countries on the same rules if you import ?
Canada does not require any import permits for any species ( excluding appendix 1 of course ).
Thailand requires import permit same as UK..

PS
I missed to order from IFTA O. meridionalis meridionalis also and it is not easy to find a pair at $500.00 the rate they were selling for . Once they where out of stock and then they closed . I wonder what happened with all the people they were farming all those birdwings.
I hope they were not get in back to logging .

Paul

[Paul K]

Jan I am afraid your information is not correct . Canada does not require import permit for CITES appendix 2 . I have purchased many specimens also from IFTA in PNG and no permit was request thru customs. Once though pair of O.paradisea was confiscate  by customs cause the seller from Germany sent it to me without re-export permit thinking that Canada is within EU. CITES does not reqiuer the import permit as well.

 Appendix-II specimens

An export permit or re-export certificate issued by the Management Authority of the State of export or re-export is required.

An export permit may be issued only if the specimen was legally obtained and if the export will not be detrimental to the survival of the species.

A re-export certificate may be issued only if the specimen was imported in accordance with the Convention.

In the case of a live animal or plant, it must be prepared and shipped to minimize any risk of injury, damage to health or cruel treatment.

No import permit is needed unless required by national law.

www.cites.org/eng/disc/how.php

Appendix-I specimens

An import permit issued by the Management Authority of the State of import is required. This may be issued only if the specimen is not to be used for primarily commercial purposes and if the import will be for purposes that are not detrimental to the survival of the species. In the case of a live animal or plant, the Scientific Authority must be satisfied that the proposed recipient is suitably equipped to house and care for it.

Appendix 1 as we can see has different information on the same CITES website.


Paul

[cabintom]

For Canada, probably the best place to reference is:
ec.gc.ca/cites/listedesespeces-specieslist/index.cfm?lang=en&fuseaction=scList.swFilterResult



For Ornithoptera spp. (for example) : ec.gc.ca/cites/listedesespeces-specieslist/index.cfm?lang=en&fuseaction=species.swDetailedInfo&code=408&src=filter

There it states: "To import in Canada: Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by a CITES export permit issued by the exporting country. "



On the other hand, for Ornithoptera alexandrae : ec.gc.ca/cites/listedesespeces-specieslist/index.cfm?lang=en&fuseaction=species.swDetailedInfo&code=409&src=filter

It states: "To import in Canada: Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by a Canadian CITES import permit; a CITES export permit issued by the exporting country. "


Tom

[Paul K]

Because O.alexandrae is under appendix 1.

Ps
Tom where in Ontario are you.
I just arrived a week ago to Toronto and it looks and feels like March , still have not see a single butterfly.
I think we should stay in our relative warmer places. Makes me want to turn around and go back quickly .
Paul

[cabintom]

Apr 26, 2015 18:39:35 GMT Paul K said:

Tom where in Ontario are you.
I just arrived a week ago to Toronto and it looks and feels like March , still have not see a single butterfly.

Up in Sudbury. It was snowing not many days ago... so I feel like the butterflies aren't going to around for awhile yet.