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Post by aaa on Dec 30, 2020 16:39:05 GMT
I got this in an old case from an antique dealer that bought some cases from the Natural History Museum when they had an auction. They were part of the old 1800's entomologist Charles Oberthur's collection. None of the items in the case had any data or names for some reason. I've managed to name half of the items but I'm still struggling with the rest. Thanks for any replies. I'm in the UK btw. I cant find any match for this unusual glass wing.
This one has drawn no results. This beetle is 62 mm long from tip of head to tip of abdomen. And this beauty . and these
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Post by Paul K on Dec 30, 2020 17:36:53 GMT
Brown Satyrinae on 4th photo is a male of Elymnias hypermnestra.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 30, 2020 19:49:49 GMT
The beetle is a female Cheirotonus species. I'm not a beetle expert, so wouldn't want to go further than genus.
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Post by jmg on Dec 31, 2020 9:57:33 GMT
First picture : Ithomiinae : probably Ithomia sp. (many species looking alike among the tribe). South America. And, because it's a transparent butterfly, it would be better to have a photo without the shadow! Check on this webpage : www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/t/Ithomia_a.htm Third picture : Bassaronia teuta ssp., female (South East Asia). May be : Euthalia ( Bassarona) teuta rayana Morishita,1968 from Ko Tarutao, Satun, Thailand; see the page : yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721440030.html Picture 4 : on the left, the small blue : Dynamine racidula (South America), male, Biblidinae. The orange one : Acraea sp.: Acraea serena or Acraea manjaca? (Africa), male, Heliconiinae. Check on this website : www.acraea.com/ It matches with Acraea ( Actinote) serena Fabricius, 1775 from Malawi. Check: www.acraea.com/php/photo.php?type=specimen&index=serena&numero=0017 Picture 5 : The white one : Cymothoe sp. Cymothoe amenides or C. jodutta, male (Africa), Limenitidinae. The black and white : Papilio echerioides female or, better, Papilio fülleborni rydoni female (Africa), Papilionidae. Anyway, the white spot on the hindwing distal area looks strange for me. Check also : Papilio jacksoni kungwe, female. Better to wait for the opinion of an African Papilionidae specialist (I'm not)! Picture 6 : on the top : Pierella hortona ssp., Satyrinae (South America).
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Post by aaa on Dec 31, 2020 17:05:37 GMT
Excellent advice from all. Thanks for all the help. Just 3 left above with no name.
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Post by jmg on Dec 31, 2020 18:10:09 GMT
Picture 4 : the small one on the right, brown with white dots, is the very common (in France) Pararge aegeria, female. One of the commonest butterfly in woods. Last picture : the small white one is probably an Eurema sp. Note that the butterfly is no symetric (see the black margin). Probably a gynandromorph. Interesting ! If this sample comes from South America, for ID : www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/Pieridae.htmBut Eurema sp. fly also in Asia and Africa. Because the white colour, I presume it's an american sp.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 31, 2020 18:42:42 GMT
Picture 4 : the small one on the right, brown with white dots, is the very common (in France) Pararge aegeria, female. One of the commonest butterfly in woods. Last picture : the small white one is probably an Eurema sp. Note that the butterfly is no symetric (see the black margin). Probably a gynandromorph. Interesting ! If this sample comes from South America, for ID : www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/Pieridae.htmBut Eurema sp. fly also in Asia and Africa. Because the white colour, I presume it's an american sp. The black margin on Eurema is a shadow from the leg of beetle above, not a gynandromorph I agree this could be S.American species.
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Post by aaa on Dec 31, 2020 23:07:31 GMT
Cheers, the white one is a moth. I've matched the beetle as Dynastinae phyllagnathus burmeisteri- female.
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Post by jmg on Jan 2, 2021 9:42:21 GMT
"The black margin on Eurema is a shadow from the leg of beetle above, not a gynandromorph " I do agree ! Yes, could be Leptosia wigginsi (Dixey, 1915) or more probably Leptosia hybrida Bernardi, 1952. Both from Africa.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 2, 2021 11:23:42 GMT
"The black margin on Eurema is a shadow from the leg of beetle above, not a gynandromorph " Actually I must disagree, the shadow is not caused by a beetle leg, but a Phasmid (stick insect) leg Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Jan 2, 2021 13:59:06 GMT
"The black margin on Eurema is a shadow from the leg of beetle above, not a gynandromorph " Actually I must disagree, the shadow is not caused by a beetle leg, but a Phasmid (stick insect) leg Adam. Ah, yes! Also on the other photo we can see the abdomen of it. This is a good example of auto suggestion. The first photo: female beetle which male specimens have very long front legs. Seeing second photo long legs I didn’t look at the rest of the body assuming it is a beetle.
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