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Post by wollastoni on Oct 11, 2018 9:02:27 GMT
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 11, 2018 12:11:03 GMT
hmmm....
My guess is it's artificial.
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 11, 2018 12:38:01 GMT
This seller has few rare Ornithopteras
They look to me like badly stained with oil or water specimens.
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Post by nomad on Oct 11, 2018 14:31:48 GMT
A fake for sure, will be interesting to see if someones actually buys it.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 11, 2018 15:38:15 GMT
I see he's based in Russia. Why am I not surprised? Sadly these sellers give honest Russian dealers a bad name.
Adam.
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Post by godot on Oct 11, 2018 17:04:19 GMT
Someone probably will purchase it. Then again, I’ve known “collectors” who don’t mind whether something is real or fake so long as it fits the look they are going for—which is not my style but a reasonable personal preference I suppose. Hopefully whoever buys it is one of those and not someone who is looking for a legitimate specimen.
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 11, 2018 18:40:00 GMT
I see he's based in Russia. Why am I not surprised? Sadly these sellers give honest Russian dealers a bad name. Adam. Yeap, after the "japanotypes" of the 90ies, we now have the "russianoforms" ! :-) |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 11, 2018 18:54:41 GMT
At least a large percentage of the "Japanotypes" are actually valid subspecies although some were previously already named, and some were spurious.
Adam.
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Post by Ed on Oct 27, 2018 18:40:09 GMT
Note the very discolored abdomen. Possibly due to UV light exposure?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 27, 2018 18:53:41 GMT
Probably. I noticed that straight away, it's rather obvious.
Adam.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 19:00:40 GMT
Only my personal opinion but are not all these artificial altered forms just mere trinkets? What can the possible attraction be to pay such a high price for something so fake. A while back at Kempton park a guy had a raft of these fakes in a case and sold none, the prices were astronomical, I would much rather have a normal non abused specimen with full data for a fraction of the price but then I suppose we all collect for different reasons.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 18, 2018 14:43:34 GMT
Aside from the suspect seller, it could be real. Breeding is active and no telling what results. I had several color variations of Victoria that I have never seen pictured or documented.
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Post by nomad on Nov 18, 2018 17:52:46 GMT
I believe its one of those Chimeras a Mythical creature that was obtained through natural selection by way of a little chemical perhaps bleach with large dollar signs forming when it was created.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 20, 2018 12:41:57 GMT
OK, so let's try to duplicate it. I have A2 male urvilleanus to use.
What do you suggest to try? UV? how strong? how long? In my experience natural light (UV) fades specimens, not darkens them.
Chemicals too? Throw some ideas out here, when we agree on a method (since I don't have a lot of time for experimentation) I'll give it a try. Chuck |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 14:31:23 GMT
Chuck, I would waste even an A2 urvillianus on it, far too nice a species to sacrifice to create a Frankenstein.
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