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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 23, 2015 17:30:03 GMT
Today I was in a flight cage at my farm when I noticed a "butterfly commotion" in the cage backing onto the one I was in. When I looked round I saw a female Papilio memnon fluttering with a male hanging on in copulo below. I ran round to the cage and managed to get some photos of the event: That would not be out of the ordinary, except that the male that was mating with the Papilio memnon female is Papilio bianor, as can clearly be seen in this photo: I am not sure how long they had been mating, as they separated soon after I took the photos. It is likely that the female was not successfully fertilised, and the fluttering I saw may well have been the female trying to shake the male off her. Of course I immediately caught the Papilio memnon female and placed her in a separate flight cage which has no other butterflies in it, and will let you know if she does lay fertile eggs, and what results. She may well have been mated with a male memnon already, but she had only been released in the cage the day before. Even if mating was successful it is rather unlikely that hybrid larvae will survive to adulthood, but at least the mating was the 'right way round'. A mating between male Papilio memnon and female Papilio bianor would produce embryos that would die before hatching from the smaller egg of Papilio bianor, as the head capsule would be too big for the egg that it was developing inside. As the egg of Papilio memnon is much larger that will theoretically not be a problem with this cross. Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 23, 2015 17:45:24 GMT
Wow ! Great !
Hope there will be some babies ! Let us know Adam.
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Post by cabintom on Jan 23, 2015 20:37:26 GMT
That's exciting! I hope something great comes of this.
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Post by xavm (Xavier) on Jan 24, 2015 11:06:20 GMT
Really exciting ! I am looking forward to see the hybrids if any.
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Post by plebejus on Jan 27, 2015 17:41:07 GMT
United Colors of B...utterflies
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 27, 2015 20:08:24 GMT
Today the female started to lay eggs. I will know if they are fertile in a day or two.
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 28, 2015 20:37:52 GMT
Great news !
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Post by xavm (Xavier) on Jan 29, 2015 14:05:11 GMT
Today the female started to lay eggs. I will know if they are fertile in a day or two. Adam.
Thanks Adam, we are now all looking forward to see the larvae
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 29, 2015 14:35:16 GMT
Well, I can confirm today that at least some of the eggs laid on the first day ARE fertile. However, there is a distinct possibility that the female had already mated with a male Papilio memnon before the bianor male intervened. The eggs should start hatching in another 4 days, and maybe I will be able to tell if they are hybrid larvae or not then.
Adam.
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jensb
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Post by jensb on Feb 16, 2015 14:46:46 GMT
That's interesting, how does it look at the moment? Did they hatch and can you already say something about a hybrid or not?
greetz jens
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 16, 2015 21:35:48 GMT
Jens,
I have small larvae, but I suspect that they are probably pure memnon as is most likely. I will be able to tell when they grow larger.
Adam.
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