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Post by nomad on Oct 6, 2016 17:11:50 GMT
Which are the rarest Asian Papilionidae . I know Papilio elephenor and Papilio lampsacus are two.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 6, 2016 17:29:57 GMT
Also....Bhutanitis ludlowi, Atrophaneura matsudai, Pachliopta jophon, and Papilio godeffroyi come to mind as being rare in collections. Of course, there are far more obscure and little-known subspecies that are seldom seen, and/or known from only a few specimens, mostly because they occur in seldom-collected areas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 17:38:46 GMT
I wouldn't mind a pair of each of those species mentioned if anybody has some spare, on the cheap of course I'd even take A_\A2 at a push.
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Post by nomad on Oct 6, 2016 17:59:17 GMT
Thanks Danny. That is a nice little list to study when I visit to the museum next week.  |
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Post by mygos on Oct 6, 2016 18:28:36 GMT
Which are the rarest Asian Papilionidae . I know Papilio elephenor and Papilio lampsacus are two. I heard that a Papilio elephenor was offered on last Juvisy fair for a price of 20.000,- euros ! A+, Michel |
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 6, 2016 19:14:04 GMT
Over 25+ years, I've turned down 3 historic P. elephenor specimens, always because of the price. Looking back, the first two that were offered could now be considered dirt cheap and I would now snatch them immediately! |
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Post by crazypapilio on Oct 6, 2016 20:12:42 GMT
chilasa moerneri
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 6, 2016 20:37:57 GMT
Add Graphium euphratoides and Papilio (Chilasa) carolinensis to the list.
Adam.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 6, 2016 22:09:41 GMT
The latter two have popped up fairly often in the past few years...much more than in the past.
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Post by luehdorfia on Oct 6, 2016 22:43:10 GMT
What about Agehana maraho? Seems to be already pretty rare in Taiwan and only a few specimens are offered on the market sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 23:09:18 GMT
I would take moerneri over elephenor any day, but might have to settle for toboroi and use some imagination |
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 6, 2016 23:18:13 GMT
What about Agehana maraho? Seems to be already pretty rare in Taiwan and only a few specimens are offered on the market sometimes. It's protected, so it's not often available. There are quite a few in older collections. It's always been scarce; I remember in The Butterfly Company's catalogue in the late '60s, it was their highest-priced specimen at a grand $15 ! |
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Post by nomad on Oct 7, 2016 3:22:58 GMT
I would take moerneri over elephenor any day, but might have to settle for toboroi and use some imagination I see there was a pair of moerneri for a whopping 6500 Euros at Juvisy but not quite the 20,000 Euros someone wanted for elephenor, not doubt because that later is protected and thought to be extinct that is until fairly recently. |
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Post by crazypapilio on Oct 7, 2016 11:01:03 GMT
I have my moerneri for only 280euro from ebay :-)
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 7, 2016 11:48:32 GMT
The latter two have popped up fairly often in the past few years...much more than in the past. Yes, but both of them have a very restricted range and are rarely collected in more than ones and twos, I would certainly include them in the 'rarest' category. Adam. |
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