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Post by africaone on Mar 27, 2016 20:53:18 GMT
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 27, 2016 21:46:21 GMT
Indeed, must be something rare !  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Mar 27, 2016 22:56:17 GMT
Well, that's a mighty crazy price for a rather mundane looking lep --- whatever it is. Whether it be unusual, new, or un-described it still amazes me that some people out there seem absurdly willing to throw foolish amounts of money away on such things. You would think they were playing with Monopoly money.
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Post by nomad on Mar 28, 2016 8:30:55 GMT
Without knowing the moth's status, name or anything else- crazy money.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 9:54:28 GMT
I stopped trying to figure out the mentality of some eBay bidder's years ago
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Post by ornithorchid on Mar 28, 2016 13:09:43 GMT
Well eBay is somewhat similar to an auction house... Although you tend to find more knowledgeable people at auction houses. If someone decided to pay $700+ onto a bug that looks ugly to some, this bidder had certainly an eye for something he knew was not common or never described before. Everyone does as they wish... And most of the time these bidders are not the ones with the highest $$$ power. Simply passionate people, with a taste and sense for the original, people who are willing to cut their spending for next 3-month to simply compensate for this unusually high purchase. This buyer will certainly curate this new acquisition better than anyone else. I am NOT the buyer -I don't collect moth- yet within my past experience I got to learn: if something unusual or something you had never seen anywhere before pops-up (eBay or else) I made it a rule to purchase it. I am generally correct -this happened again a few weeks ago- and an opportunity such as this may not happen again until several years. Your money, your passion... You love it so just buy it if that makes you happy. |
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Post by nomad on Mar 28, 2016 14:48:42 GMT
Well someone bought it, I am guessing as there are many Sphingidae species in Vietnam, the new owner indeed must have spotted that it was either very rare or a slim chance it was a new species. By the way the seller thought it was from the Noctuidae- Arctiidae Family. Whoever the seller is, as he had no clue what moth he had, not even that it was a hawk, he must be Dancing in the Streets.
Well lets be fair to Auction houses, ebay is far from that. At a Insect Auction, you are there, you make your bid and watch and again bid if you need to. With ebay you can bid higher but in the last minutes when you are at work or tucked up in bed, someone bids a dollar more and wins.
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Post by wolf on Mar 28, 2016 15:10:06 GMT
one mans sh*t is another mans gold
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 28, 2016 15:28:33 GMT
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Post by timmsyrj on Mar 28, 2016 15:51:30 GMT
The seller is Thanh ( vietnaminsects) who I have had many Stichophthalma specimens from, he admits to not being very knowledgeable regarding species identity and I have helped on quite a few species he's been offering, there was 5 bidders on it and it appears 2 of them spotted a rarity bidding what they did. I too get very frustrated with the practice of listing them under all the most often searched families so your search gets loads of stuff you ain't interested in. Rich |
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Post by mygos on Mar 28, 2016 18:03:20 GMT
Well eBay is somewhat similar to an auction house... Although you tend to find more knowledgeable people at auction houses. If someone decided to pay $700+ onto a bug that looks ugly to some, this bidder had certainly an eye for something he knew was not common or never described before. Everyone does as they wish... And most of the time these bidders are not the ones with the highest $$$ power. Simply passionate people, with a taste and sense for the original, people who are willing to cut their spending for next 3-month to simply compensate for this unusually high purchase. This buyer will certainly curate this new acquisition better than anyone else. I am NOT the buyer -I don't collect moth- yet within my past experience I got to learn: if something unusual or something you had never seen anywhere before pops-up (eBay or else) I made it a rule to purchase it. I am generally correct -this happened again a few weeks ago- and an opportunity such as this may not happen again until several years. Your money, your passion... You love it so just buy it if that makes you happy. I fully agree with this ! A+, Michel |
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 28, 2016 18:32:37 GMT
Me too !
And I prefer to see someone investing hundreds of USD for buying a rare maybe undescribed moth than on a farmed Ornitho hybrid...
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Post by ornithorchid on Mar 28, 2016 18:35:37 GMT
Well someone bought it, I am guessing as there are many Sphingidae species in Vietnam, the new owner indeed must have spotted that it was either very rare or a slim chance it was a new species. By the way the seller thought it was from the Noctuidae- Arctiidae Family. Whoever the seller is, as he had no clue what moth he had, not even that it was a hawk, he must be Dancing in the Streets. Well lets be fair to Auction houses, ebay is far from that. At a Insect Auction, you are there, you make your bid and watch and again bid if you need to. With ebay you can bid higher but in the last minutes when you are at work or tucked up in bed, someone bids a dollar more and wins. If someone got it for one extra dollar than your max bid this simply means you were either 1) cheap and you didn't really want to acquire the specimen that badly or 2) you were reasonable and you set your maximum bid and kept your words for it... Please dont get offended by the case #1. The thing to remember when bids get high and tight is THE FAKE BIDDER: the seller sees that one or two persons are highly interested in the auction and will spice up the things a little more so that his wallet can get bigger. For that reason I also make a point to stay up till the last second and drop my last bid LAST to WIN without paying the seller EXTRA ILLEGAL money he doesn't deserve. If I am willing to pay money to eBay A** H***s it s because I am highly interested in the specimen. |
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Post by nomad on Mar 28, 2016 19:10:54 GMT
f someone got it for one extra dollar than your max bid this simply means you were either 1) cheap and you didn't really want to acquire the specimen that badly or 2) you were reasonable and you set your maximum bid and kept your words for it... Please dont get offended by the case #1. That easier said that done if you are the only bidder and if you know what to offer. I guess I really don't like ebay buying, I never have and never will, even if this means my collection grows at a snail's pace. There are lots of reliable established dealers out there. You might pay more, but you know what your getting. |
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Post by mygos on Mar 28, 2016 19:51:00 GMT
I use to buy a lot of books or collectible on Ebay and I always use a sniper software which I set 24 hours before the end with the maximum amount I wish to pay for that item. One day I was lucky getting for 400 euros 11 volumes of the color edition of Oberthur "Etudes de lépidoptérologie comparée", although I did put 6.500 euros on the sniper In a few case, I missed the item meaning somebody desire it more than me that day  A+, Michel |
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probably a new species, may be a new genus ! 
