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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:16:43 GMT
 Lovely NZ endemic. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:18:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:20:07 GMT
 lampides boeticus NZ, bottom specimen Laurie Wills. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:22:05 GMT
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 4, 2015 23:33:39 GMT
Come on guys, subspecies are not endemics of a country or place. Nice selection of L. boldenarum. I am still wondering if I should take off some months in 2017 to further study this species.
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Post by nomad on Dec 5, 2015 8:10:11 GMT
Are you sure about that . Countries can have endemic subspecies - meaning those subspecies are only found in that country.
"Another term for a species that is endemic is precinctive, which applies to species (and subspecific categories) that are restricted to a defined geographical area. " From Wikipedia.
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 5, 2015 10:20:05 GMT
My comment yesterday was a general comment, few days before I had read of an "endemic" subspecies of Agriades pyrenaicus in Russia, lol. It's a very widespread species.
Anyway, now I looked at my books and the situation looks very complicated and I am not really happy about the taxonomic situation on these guys atm. So oxleyi is only found in South Island and is having a hard time now since otis/labradus is introduced? Sorry for the confusion here, but some people say Zizina labradus otis, and others apparently Zizina otis labradus... If this competition by the other taxon is happening, it would be crucial to know if they only compete for resources or also do interbreed in a viable, or non viable manner. In the former case it would be good to call them Zizina otis oxleyi, in the latter case Zizina oxleyi. Even without the latter, it might be good to call them Zizina oxleyi (which many people do at the moment) based on other clear separations.
Very interesting case, I will look further into it. Thank you Dunc for sharing.
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