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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:35:45 GMT
I spent several weeks in Colombia (Eastern Cordillera ans Llanos) where butterflies were abundant in amazing landsacapes. Back in Paris, I dream about a new sojurn in this country ! Here is Callicore pitheas (Latreille, [1813])
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:38:30 GMT
Here a Pari des erithalion browni female deposing eggs (I presume : aristolochiae leaves were close to the grass) :
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:43:34 GMT
I have more trouble to ID these Parides males : erithalion ? the red spots on the HW are not those of erithalion. anchises ? same comment ! neophilus ? on HW, the red coulour is only half of the cellula (entire cellula in neophilus) Thank you for helping !
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:44:41 GMT
other Parides male :
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:44:57 GMT
Third Parides male :
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 11:46:02 GMT
and a caterpillar : ID ?
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Post by timmsyrj on Nov 19, 2015 12:59:08 GMT
Parides eurimedes i think, as to sub species I'll leave that to Adam, s.sp agathokles flies in the eastern cordillera and upper magdalena valley, local but there are other s.sp of this in Colombia, along with the nominate there is mycale, arriphus, and antheus. Probably more named since the Swallowtail Butterflies of the Americas was released. Very varied as to forewing markings, some s.sp have no white patches others quite large with varying amounts of green.
Rich
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 19, 2015 13:17:08 GMT
Glad to see you back Jean-Marc ?
How was the expedition ? Succesful ? Safe ?
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 14:04:12 GMT
Parides eurimedes, yes I was thinking about it, but, on the website parides.genus.free.fr, they give the following subspecies : - eurimedes : Venezuela and only the northernmost part of Colombia - arriphus : Magdalena Valley - and these samples inhabit the opposite slopes (Eastern) of the cordillera - antheas : Cauca Valley and the others subspecies flies in Central America and pacific slopes of the Andes. So, at first view, none of these subspecies matches with my encounters. Wollastoni questions : "How was the expedition ? Succesful ? Safe ? ". It was a very pleasant sojurn : succesful on the rhopalocera level, not so good on the moths level (anyway, in my opinion, my heterocerists friends were a little bit too much lazy to carry the electrical generator inside moutains and forests ! ). Of course, nearly a third of the time was lost for butterfly observation regarding the heavy rains we got almost each day. About safety : we noticed almost everywhere the strong military presence and too, up in the moutains, of the guerrilleros. Nevertheless, as you know, these military forces are engaged in peace talkings. So, it's presently safe, at least, much more than in Paris (my house is just between two of the restaurants where gunshots took place). In Colombia, we avoid to frequent places where drugs mafias are acting : these are the most dangerous areas. Before going in Colombi a, many among my friends told me that it would be better for me to delay this trip regarding the high level of unsafety. Actually, they kill dozens of people in Paris at less than 200 meters from my home. While I was still in Colombia, my wife had to open our door to give protection to people escaping from the machine-guns.
My advice : nowadays, go collecting or/and shooting in Colombia and leave Europe !
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Post by timmsyrj on Nov 19, 2015 14:36:24 GMT
Yes I checked that website first, it's not listed but agathokles is listed on funet, but no T/L other than country, Swallowtail Butterflies of the Americas has it listed as eastern cordillera, the plate data in the back of the book has Villeta, Colombia, I'll google earth it. Villeta is north of Bagota, eastern cordillera.
Rich
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 19, 2015 14:52:37 GMT
Here a Pari des erithalion browni female deposing eggs (I presume : aristolochiae leaves were close to the grass) : This is not P. erithalion, note the red marginal spots on the hindwings. I think it is a female of P. eurimedes agathokles, with subspecies based on locality. The males all appear to be the same, but it is not easy to be certain from live photos, which don't show all the characters clearly. Adam. PS. Rich was right
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 19, 2015 15:03:46 GMT
By the way, Racheli, 2006 (The Genus Parides. Butterflies of the World, Supplement 13) treats agathokles as a synonym of aripphus, but states that it often has a larger red band on the hindwing.
Subspecies separation is subjective, so I will let JMG decide which of the two names he wants to use.
Adam.
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 15:15:04 GMT
According Sebastien Demay (http://parides.genus.free.fr/euri5.html), agathokles ( Papilio agathokles Kollar, 1850 TL : Venezuela) is a synonym of Parides eurimedes arriphus (Boisduval, 1836). The same entomologist gives the subspecies arriphus (= agathokles) only from the Magadalena Valley. My samples come from the foothills of the Andes (Orinoccian side) and from the Llanos. Actually, arriphus (= agathokles) matchs with my samples even those from the website lack the white spot at the summit of the green patches on the FW. Many thanks to Rich & Adam ! Here are samples given by the website parides.genus.free.fr :
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Post by timmsyrj on Nov 19, 2015 15:35:22 GMT
The male figured in the Swallowtail Butterflies of the Americas, plate 59 figure M has two large white spots on the forewing, even larger than those on your last live photo, I guess they are quite variable as the other two from the same locality don't have any. The female, figure N has very pale yellowish Orange hindwing markings, very large patch, approx half the wing surface.
Rich
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Post by jmg on Nov 19, 2015 15:36:03 GMT
The caterpillar seems to be a Mimoides larva ? (see: Tyler, Brown & Wilson, Swallowtail But. of the America, plate 44). What about this one :
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