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Post by trehopr1 on Sept 21, 2019 20:57:40 GMT
I have had this beautiful female Japanese papilio in my collection for some years. She is one of the few (female) examples of the Achillides group which I have come to own. This is a quite beautiful butterfly and I've always wondered of which species. The data reads: Japan, Tokyo, Akigawa (13.June.1980) I presume this is probably something common over there however, I am curious how varied it is ? How many subspecies ? Is is something localized or spread over many islands? Just curious overall...  |
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Post by Paul K on Sept 21, 2019 21:52:44 GMT
I suppose it is Papilio bianor dehaani.
I’m sure Adam will present more of the details in regards this Papilio.
Beautiful species which I still miss in my Thai collection, there are three other ssp. that occur in continental Thailand.
Cheers
Paul
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Post by trehopr1 on Sept 21, 2019 22:18:59 GMT
Thank you so very much Paul K for your quick reply ! Sounds like a widespread species... Sure is a dandy.
Like I said in my other thread on gloss papilio's these butterflies are just "infectious" to collect.
I suppose "intoxicating" to collect is also another way of putting it...
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 22, 2019 11:12:40 GMT
I suppose it is Papilio bianor dehaani. I’m sure Adam will present more of the details in regards this Papilio. Beautiful species which I still miss in my Thai collection, there are three other ssp. that occur in continental Thailand. Cheers Paul Paul, This is not a subspecies of Papilio bianor. Papilio dehaanii is a separate species occurring in Japan, Korea and far NE China. Hybrids between P. bianor and dehaanii are infertile and the DNA is distinct. trehopr1, This specimen is a female of ssp. dehaanii. There are other subspecies on the smaller Japanese islands to the south. I will list them below: ryukyuensis Fujioka, 1975 (Type Locality: Okinawa Islands, Japan) amamiensis Fujioka, 1981 (Type Locality: Amami Island, Japan) tokaraensis Fujioka, 1975 (Type Locality: Nakanoshima, Tokara Islands, Japan) hachijonis Matsumura, 1919 (Type Locality: Hachijo Islands, Japan) = utae (Dufek & Schäffler, 2006) (Type Locality: Japan, Miyake Jima) ullungensis Kim & Park, 1991 (Type Locality: Ullungdo, Kyŏngpuk Prov, Korea) Note that ryukyuensis and amamiensis are probably another separate species, Papilio ryukyuensis - see Aoki et al. 2009. Butterflies Fauna of the Loochoos (Ryukyu Archipelago). Yadoriga, 220: 47-60. Also ullungensis may just be an island population of ssp. dehaanii, but I haven't seen specimens of that other than the type photos and cannot be certain. Adam. |
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Post by Paul K on Sept 22, 2019 13:15:17 GMT
Thank you Adam for clarification.
With your knowledge of this family we can always learn more.
Very similar species and when I was looking on web to confirm I must ran into outdated, misleading publication which includes dehaani within bianor species.
Paul
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 22, 2019 14:35:42 GMT
Very similar species and when I was looking on web to confirm I must ran into outdated, misleading publication which includes dehaani within bianor species. Paul Indeed, they are very closely related and only confirmed as separate species relatively recently. many publications treat them as subspecies of the same species. As well as DNA analysis suggesting they are different species I also crossed bianor gladiator from Laos with dehaanii from Japan, and the hybrids are infertile. Adam. |
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Post by trehopr1 on Sept 24, 2019 7:23:45 GMT
Thank you Adam for your expertise. Always appreciate your Papilionid determinations.
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