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Post by isidro on Aug 15, 2019 10:29:24 GMT
Exhibited at Boston Museum of Sciences. No data. Please help ID!  |
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Post by isidro on Aug 20, 2019 2:18:08 GMT
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Post by xavm (Xavier) on Aug 22, 2019 7:16:07 GMT
Presumably a north american Catocala
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Post by isidro on Aug 22, 2019 15:56:23 GMT
I hope so. But, which one? Take in account that colours may be faded - it can have red hindwings instead yellow ones.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 22, 2019 22:10:36 GMT
I posted the photo and a link to this thread in an Insectnet Catocala thread. Maybe one of the experts there can identify this specimen for you. There are so many US Catocala species it seems that it probably won't be easy.
Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 23, 2019 8:12:00 GMT
@rayrard posted on Insectnet:
"looks like a very faded C. antinympha but I would need a locality as I'm assuming it's U.S."
I replied thanking him and confirmed that you said it is faded and has no data.
Adam.
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Post by isidro on Aug 23, 2019 15:28:11 GMT
Ohhh, giant thanks for all your effort both to you and to rayrard!  You're the best! |
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Post by trehopr1 on Aug 23, 2019 15:45:08 GMT
I noticed your photo about 3 days back and could tell it was badly faded ; and your mention on it having no data gave me no food for thought. We have a number of small species and they are variable so I did not wish to even venture a guess.
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Post by isidro on Aug 27, 2019 6:01:57 GMT
I ask for another Catocala here. This time with clearly readable tag, that says: RI: Kent Co, Warwick. I searched and found that this is located at Rhode Island. The only Catocala with black hindwings that I can find for Rhode Island in Bugguide is Catocala andromedae, but it doesn't match with mine: forewings are very different and hind wings have a little white dot in apical angle. So, please which Catocala is it? Thanks!  |
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Post by trehopr1 on Aug 27, 2019 10:31:57 GMT
In my humble opinion, your specimen most closely resembles the Yellow-gray Underwing (Catocala retecta) (Grote 1872). The prominent spot on each forewing along with the "bleeding-in" grey crescent of lighter grey color beneath it are good markers.
The little white dots you say are on the hind wings are not dots --- they are pin holes !
The forewings are unusually light overall due to lighting.
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Post by isidro on Aug 28, 2019 10:03:12 GMT
Big thanks! With the white dots I was referring to those in C. andromedae. The pale colour of forewings probably is not due to lighting but due to fading of the specimen - as many other moths in the same box.
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Post by xavm (Xavier) on Aug 28, 2019 12:20:23 GMT
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Post by Paul K on Aug 28, 2019 12:50:48 GMT
I can confirm it is C.retecta, I’m not a specialist in Catocala but I came across one a week ago and is now residing on my spreading board.
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You're the best!
