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Post by wollastoni on May 19, 2019 12:53:05 GMT
Some nice images of that splendid species endangered by deforestation in Jamaica
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Post by wollastoni on May 19, 2019 18:54:16 GMT
The paper lure is interesting and the lodge in the Blue Mountains seems to be good to see and picture homerus !
P. homerus seems pretty common in the video in the Blue Mountains and it is said to be rarer in the Cockpit Mountains area.
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 19, 2019 19:50:47 GMT
The location that many used to come from was Corn Puss Gap. That was 30+ years ago, and I don't know whether it has been deforested since then.
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Post by nomad on May 20, 2019 16:57:43 GMT
Very interesting video. Some dedicated people there.  |
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Post by wollastoni on May 22, 2019 7:40:22 GMT
Odd comment...
homerus is a Cites I species, so Pr Garraway must have proposed a non lethal protocal to obtain fresh DNA to get the authorizations.
I see no hypocrisy or politics, only good sense.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 22, 2019 12:53:14 GMT
hypocrisis because even you got permission to make analaysis it is not political correct to show images where a protected species is killed ... No specimens were killed at all. Small parts of the hindwings of each specimen were removed for DNA analysis and the specimens were immediately released. Professor Garraway has been studying P. homerus for very many years now and has published many papers on the species. I am sure he must have permits for his research project. Apart from which it is not illegal under CITES laws (local protection laws are a different matter) to take samples of CITES I listed species and keep them within the country of origin, it is only illegal to send those actual samples to another country, whether they be actual dead specimens or even small pieces of wing material. Adam. |
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Post by luehdorfia on May 22, 2019 21:50:53 GMT
Fantastic to see such a mythical butterfly flying in reality! I have heard from friends how difficult it is to find them in Jamaica, good friend of mine went there for two months and didn’t see a single one.
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Post by wollastoni on May 23, 2019 10:23:51 GMT
CITES is for worldwide trading and market only, it has absolutely nothing to do with an actual protection of the species in any country Yes and no. Find me one CITES species that is not also protected in its own country.  |
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Post by Paul K on May 23, 2019 10:32:13 GMT
CITES is for worldwide trading and market only, it has absolutely nothing to do with an actual protection of the species in any country Yes and no. Find me one CITES species that is not also protected in its own country. Troides aeacus is not protected species in Thailand. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 23, 2019 16:49:09 GMT
Troides aeacus is not protected species in Thailand. I can confirm that, but T. helena is protected. In the peninsula T. helena is by far the commoner species, but in most of Thailand it is mainly confined to forests or areas near to forest because it feeds on Aristolochia tagala which is a forest species. On the other hand T. aeacus will happily eat A. pothieri in the rainy season. That is a very large leaved deciduous species that starts growing in the late dry season and is found in secondary growth and even on banks of rice fields. Pachliopta aristolochiae also happily takes this and other smaller Aristolochia species and both these species can consequently be commonly found everywhere in the rainy season. In the dry season they retreat to the forest where the evergreen A. tagala can be found. Adam. |
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