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Post by cosmin on Feb 20, 2015 11:12:58 GMT
Hi to all,
Making a trip in French Guyana (there because is possible also to collect) is one of my dream and if something go well maybe will have the occasion to do that this year. I'm thinking to november for the period and wanted to ask if any of you have experience there and can offer some advice. Specially something about lodges that help with collecting there, the plans is to stay for few days in 2-3 locations for the cca 2 weeks period that I'm thinking/hoping to be there.
Any advice is welcome !!!!
Thank you, Cosmin
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Post by wollastoni on Feb 20, 2015 11:16:20 GMT
I am sure JMG will be able to give you some good advice. About lodge, I know that the entomological lodge " Gite Moutouchi" is interesting And the owners know a lot about Guyanan insects.
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Post by Paul K on Feb 20, 2015 12:39:56 GMT
I was in French guiana for two weeks in February. Very good time for moth collecting . That was the main focus of my trip. November should be good for morphos . The best time for butterflies is July and August when there is a short dry season. I stayed there in Amazon nature lodge in Kaw Mountains. Fred the owner is very friendly and speak English very well. He will organize night collecting , bite traps etc. . I don't know about butterflies as it was not good time to collect them ( rainy season ) but I am sure he knows good spots for collecting. I was collecting along the roads and get mainly Heliconius sp. during the time in between the rain. Here is the link to Fred's website www.amazonenature.com
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Post by Paul K on Feb 20, 2015 14:06:46 GMT
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Post by tiass on Feb 22, 2015 10:08:13 GMT
hmm prices are not such shocking as I expected - South Africa is far more expensive
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Post by Paul K on Feb 22, 2015 11:03:23 GMT
The flight was expensive toronto-Miami - cayenne 10 years ago air France charged $2000.00 . There was no other options as only air France fly in there.
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Post by satyrinae on Feb 24, 2015 18:26:31 GMT
When I went to French Guiana in 2007, we hired a camper from a certain Jean Bernard from Tonnegrande. He had a website somewhere but I lost his details. Maybe a quick google search will find the details. The prices were very moderate.
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Post by cosmin on Dec 30, 2015 21:28:39 GMT
Hi,
Now after almost a year I'm happy to say that will go in French Guyana. I will reach it in 27 january and be back in 12 february, 2016. Will go with moutouchi lodge as received from the best price, this being very important for me as I have to keep costs very low. Can anyone tell me if I will need any permit to come back home with what I have collected? Export permit, veterinary permit?
Thank you, Cosmin
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Post by satyrinae on Dec 30, 2015 21:34:44 GMT
Coincidently I'm putting some order in the Arctiidae I caught in French Guiana :-) If you live in Europe, no you do not need any permits. Just a lot of paper envelopes where to place your catch If you will be on your own, jus tbe careful in certain areas close to the border with Brasil, otherwse the place should be safe. Enjoy it.
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Post by cosmin on Dec 30, 2015 21:54:18 GMT
Coincidently I'm putting some order in the Arctiidae I caught in French Guiana :-) If you live in Europe, no you do not need any permits. Just a lot of paper envelopes where to place your catch If you will be on your own, jus tbe careful in certain areas close to the border with Brasil, otherwse the place should be safe. Enjoy it. Thank you! Received rumors that if I have a lot of insects, and I plan to catch a lot (don't know if ever will have this occasion) is not impossible to have problem at airport if someone control me. I have a family at home and don't need any problem in getting back home. Anyone from Paris museum here? Cosmin
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Post by satyrinae on Dec 30, 2015 22:09:35 GMT
I understand. I went with 2 other people and amongst us we had around 20,000 (twenty thousand) specimens, all collected in 1 month. We experienced no particular control but things change quickly at airports.
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Post by cosmin on Dec 30, 2015 22:18:56 GMT
I understand. I went with 2 other people and amongst us we had around 20,000 (twenty thousand) specimens, all collected in 1 month. We experienced no particular control but things change quickly at airports. Yes, specially with last events. And we will change airports in Paris (on return from Orly to Beauvais) so we don't recover our things just back in Romania. Cosmin
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 30, 2015 22:38:29 GMT
You don't need permit as far as I know, so there should be no problem. Just do not collect in National Parks there.
Just be very polite with customs guys in Paris if they ask some questions. Bring some scientific papers and so on to show you are an entomologist.
The worst scenario is they would seize your insects for a time but I highly doubt it. Everything should be fine. You won't be fined or arrested for being an entomologist, France is a free country.
Let us know anyway.
And have a very nice time on Le Moult's land !
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Post by Paul K on Dec 31, 2015 3:03:56 GMT
Hi Cosmin
You don't need any collecting or export permits in Franch Guiana. When I was leaving at Cayenne airport they called me to check my bags. I had about 200 Arctiidae moths on pins in small box and they wouldn't figure out on X-ray what was it. After confirming that it wasn't any dangerous device, they let me go without any question. They know collecting invertebrates is allowed there so they don't do any stupid problems. In Paris customs will not bather you as you have connecting flight . In Romania that is I believe your home country so you know the rules there.
Paul PS. You should go a week later . 24 is the full moon and the best time to light trap collecting is 7 days before and after new moon . You may find less specimens coming to light as you expect in first few days but it will improve getting closer to new moon ( no moon ).
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Post by cosmin on Jan 1, 2016 14:53:37 GMT
You don't need permit as far as I know, so there should be no problem. Just do not collect in National Parks there.
Just be very polite with customs guys in Paris if they ask some questions. Bring some scientific papers and so on to show you are an entomologist.
The worst scenario is they would seize your insects for a time but I highly doubt it. Everything should be fine. You won't be fined or arrested for being an entomologist, France is a free country.
Let us know anyway.
And have a very nice time on Le Moult's land ! No paper in Romania to show that you are an entomologist (in fact not even sure if this job exist in official job list from Romania). I can have a paper from a museum or from the romanian society of lepidopteroly but this is all. c.
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