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Post by nomad on Sept 27, 2018 11:17:28 GMT
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Post by mcheki on Sept 27, 2018 15:15:22 GMT
I am certainly planning to be there. It has always been a good experience in the past.
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Post by nomad on Oct 7, 2018 8:56:56 GMT
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Post by bobw on Oct 7, 2018 13:26:03 GMT
Well I think that was the last time I'll bother to go there. I sold a total of three specimens for £30 - the tables cost me £90!
Bob
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Post by nomad on Oct 7, 2018 13:33:53 GMT
Sorry to hear that Bob, I did notice that you have packed up and were gone by the end.
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Post by nomad on Oct 7, 2018 13:40:29 GMT
I had a short chat with someone at the African tables who clearly knew his Euphaedra and their habits/habitat. I wonder now if I was actually taking to the member mcheki
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 7, 2018 13:50:00 GMT
Well I think that was the last time I'll bother to go there. I sold a total of three specimens for £30 - the tables cost me £90! Bob That sounds like a disaster. Why was it so bad, nobody buying or some other reason? Adam. PS. What did you have for sale?
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Post by mcheki on Oct 7, 2018 13:51:29 GMT
You might have been! It was not my table but I was talking to the vendor when the conversation switched to a third party. The subject was Euphaedra. The P demodocus pupae you photographed earlier were mine. Otherwise the show produced little new on the African butterfly specimen front but it was good to catch up with many friends. I also obtained further Papilio dardanus pupae which I shall look forward to rearing.
PS Adam replied while I was typing my reply to nomad. So this is a reply to Nomads question.
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Post by cabintom on Oct 7, 2018 17:19:26 GMT
Thanks for sharing the photos! I especially enjoyed seeing the Euphaedra.
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Post by bobw on Oct 7, 2018 22:22:12 GMT
Sorry to hear that Bob, I did notice that you have packed up and were gone by the end. I'd arranged to leave early in advance as I had a long standing engagement in the evening.
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Post by bobw on Oct 7, 2018 22:31:26 GMT
That sounds like a disaster. Why was it so bad, nobody buying or some other reason? Adam. PS. What did you have for sale? I think a lot of it's to do with the fact that most people just seem to have less money to spend these days Adam. Also I think there a very few people going there who are actually collectors, most people just want to look round or want something pretty to put on the wall. I was surrounded by tables selling "creepy-crawlies" and they seemed to be very busy. I had four drawers of Morphos (mainly because they are about the only things I have sold many of in recent years), two drawers of Neotropical Papilionidae, one drawer of Agrias and Prepona and one drawer of Saturniids (mainly Actias). Bob
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Post by joachim on Oct 8, 2018 0:10:13 GMT
Thanks also for the photos. I myself didn´t go to a fair since many years. I would spend all my money ( or with a gun and mask: Give me all your pupae ! Hahaha) It´s just to meet people and friends. Many species are protected and for buying a certain species, I can have a look at the internet.
From what I saw. some pices are rather high???
Joachim
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Post by trehopr1 on Oct 8, 2018 2:47:58 GMT
Thank you Nomad for all the pictures that you did get for us to see. What a grand event. I can only be envious of you fellas having such events going on. If I lived over there I would hit every single one and I would always come away with a box of something. There sure is a lot of quality looking specimens present. A lot of well done stuff ! British collectors must have some very "quality-rich" collections... My favorite drawers were the Actias drawer, Colotis drawer, African papilionid drawer, and of coarse the Charaxes !
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 8, 2018 8:13:03 GMT
It seems to me that there are more British collectors in Paris Insect Fair than in the AES...
But AES is doing very few to attract them ! Paris Insect Fair is advertising on facebook, Cal Poly fair is renting banners on Insectnet and Collector's Secret , and so on. AES doesn't communicate and arrive 2 weeks after Modena and 1 week after Juvisy, when collectors have no more money and international sellers have already sold their best stuff...
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Post by nomad on Oct 8, 2018 10:00:02 GMT
I guess that serious collectors now mostly go to the big European fairs, but travel and a hotels are expensive, so some British collectors may take into consideration the money they spend on that could be spent on specimens. The AES is a society event that has been around since the 1930s. The heyday of the AES as far as collectors were concerned was in the 1970s/1980s, for any collector attending it was a mouth watering experience and like bees to a honeypot, many including myself were drawn to the amazing stalls of Paul Smart and many others, Bill Bacon also springs to mind. Still, even today if your interest was collecting world insects, you could easily fill your storebox at the AES. As for the prices I thought they were really cheap, especially the African material which was superbly set and mostly A1. To gather such material yourself in Africa I expect would take half a lifetime. As for protected butterflies on sale at fairs, the vendor should have the appropriate permits, for instance there was a number of supposedly Maculinea arion from old British collections and all had permits, on one stall a long series of these flew off into a collectors box at quite an expense. The two smaller boxes of cold shock and selective bred abs shown here including those of Issoria lathonia were by the great collector and breeder Roy Stockley from the 70s/80s, he is renown for his natural bred aberrations and those he caught in the field, he had amazing luck. The AES also has much else to enjoy, there are many second hand book stalls, new book stalls, a number of well know entomology suppliers, many second hand cabinets, entomology prints including those of Roy Lewington, many insect society stalls from the FRES to the AES, the Dipterists forum tables were excellent etc.
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