crino
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Post by crino on Sept 1, 2018 4:56:26 GMT
Hi there, I've found these unlabelled butterflies among mostly african and asian Pieridae in 2 drawers of the 60s-70s and would like to know which species / genera they are. With no data and small bibliography and knowledge on Pieridae I am not able to identify them, so I ask you for some help. Thank you!
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Post by jmg on Sept 1, 2018 8:48:30 GMT
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Post by cabintom on Sept 2, 2018 14:51:49 GMT
1 & 2 are Belenois sp.
4-13 are Colotis sp.
20-22 look like Appias sp.
Without knowing where they're from it really takes a lot of effort to narrow down the identifications further than that.
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Post by Paul K on Sept 2, 2018 17:11:10 GMT
#3,20,21,22 Appias albina 17,18,19 Cepora nerissa 16 Appias lalassis 14,15 Cepora boisduvaliana
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Post by mcheki on Sept 4, 2018 13:34:59 GMT
I have tried to determine the specimens that come from Africa as I concentrate on this region. No 1 and 2 appear to be Belenois creona, but I should add that they are particularly well marked and dark specimens. Posssibly a male above a female. No 4 Colotis annae male. Possibly subspecies annae. No 5 Colotis evippe male. No costal spot. No 6 and 7 are Colotis vesta. A male above a female. Possibly subspecies catachrysops. A variable species with wet and dry season forms. No 8 and 9 are more difficult. I first thought Colotis evanthe but as this occurs in Madagascar is this likely? So possibly a dry season form of C pallene. Otherwise C evippe. No 10 a female wet season form of C evenina. No 11 Colotis hildebrandti female. No 12 and No 13 are Colotis auxo male above female. This is in a group of Colotis species that are quite similar and confusing so may also be under the name C aurora. No 20, 21 and 22 are Appias sabina as far as I can determine. All males Deciding subspecies is not possible at this stage as this group are variable and the collection localities are not known. I get the feeling that these originate from eastern Africa. The others are not African so far as I can tell. I hope that this helps.
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crino
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Post by crino on Sept 4, 2018 17:04:36 GMT
That's very kind of you! I already identified the rest of the butterflies in the drawers (it was easier as they are not so variable).
No 8 and 9 could be from Madagascar, as I've found other butterflies from that island in the same drawer.
Thanks very much for your help.
crino
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Post by cabintom on Sept 5, 2018 8:36:09 GMT
Just to point out that both Paul and mcheki have identified #20-22 as differing species of Appias based on assumed provenance.
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Post by africaone on Sept 6, 2018 9:28:52 GMT
1-2 surely not creona, something in the side of aurata. I don't recognise a Belenois from Contiental Africa, then may be Belenois java (not sure as I don't know the oriental fauna) 4-11 are a pair of the same species, Colotis annae. 5-10 are a pair of Colotis evenina. 8-9 more likely Colotis evanthe (pallene has the orange tip completely close by a proximal black band)
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Post by cabintom on Sept 6, 2018 13:47:19 GMT
The people providing identifications are far from amateurs. I think I'll point others to this thread if ever there's a question of why location is important for identification.
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Post by mcheki on Sept 7, 2018 12:23:58 GMT
I forgot to add that under the thread titled "A look at some African butterflies" refer to my photographs of Colotis drawers posted in October 2014. I have just checked as I had thought Photobucket had removed these but I see that they are again available and viewable.
PS Can someone more knowlegeable in thread technology provide a direct link??
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Post by cabintom on Sept 8, 2018 7:47:53 GMT
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Post by mcheki on Sept 8, 2018 8:54:57 GMT
WOW! That is great. Many thanks, cabintom.
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Post by cabintom on Sept 8, 2018 19:27:54 GMT
No problem. It's nice to see it all in one spot.
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