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Post by isidro on Mar 5, 2018 9:36:29 GMT
While not exactly an "insect identification" post because this is not an insect, I believe that maybe somebody can help me with the ID. It was bought in a market (in Spain) for 1 euro, without nothing more than the animal and the box, with no sign of procedence. I suspect that it may come from Morocco and that maybe it's an Androctonus, but species ID is what I need. I also suspect that it's painted in black, and I'm not sure if the original colour is also black or not (if you take a look at the hairs of the tarsi, they're united by black paint).
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Post by trehopr1 on Mar 5, 2018 16:09:51 GMT
There are only a relative few authorities who are capable of identifying scorpions at the species level. Specialists on scorpions are at present re-working the classification of the genus Androctonus to sort out the species and their subtle differences. A few of the "Androc" species are black but, most are sand colored. At best, you may find someone who can det. this specimen to family and possibly genus -- doubtfully further! You will likely have to take multiple (clear) pictures from different angles (including the underside) for anyone to tell you much about it. I would suggest pouring some warm tap water over it to see if any paint it has on it washes off. Possibly revealing if it is a sand colored species. Because, of your relative close proximity (Spain) -- to North Africa; I do think it is within the realm of probability that this could be of that genus and could also be hazardous to own. Exercise extreme caution here!! Probably best here to simply drop it into a bottle with 70% rubbing alcohol for preservation purposes. Would not recommend anything stronger than 70% as it will "harden" up the specimen; whereas the 70% will leave it pliable. Dangerous or otherwise "species of health risk" are both collected in the wild --- as well as bred for the animal trade industry. There are some people who just can't seem to contain themselves from owning "wild things" that may harm them or potentially kill them in time. I've never understood this manner of thinking but, there is always someone out there to do the un-thinkable where most dare not tread. Be careful and safe and never buy anything without proper information and or true knowledge of the subject.
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Post by isidro on Mar 11, 2018 8:09:39 GMT
I can take more pictures of details, but certainly not from underside, and also impossible to put warm tap water over it. It's inside a completely closed box with glass viewing panel, and glued to the bottom of the box.
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Post by Zeiss on Mar 11, 2018 11:33:25 GMT
To be able to get an accurate identification made, the scorpion would need to be removed from the frame, and cleansed of paint, as you say it appears to have a coat of paint on it. I do agree on your genus guess of Androctonus, from the highly venomous scorpions I have owned, the body type resembles them. The only similar genus I can think of is Parabuthus, but they have more hair on their tails and from what I can see, your specimen has none.
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Post by isidro on Mar 13, 2018 7:05:55 GMT
It's impossible to remove it from the frame, unless I broke the glass with a hammer or cut the box with a saw, and after use a de-gluer for separate the scorpion from the bottom.
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