crino
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Post by crino on Jan 6, 2018 22:58:11 GMT
Hello! I found some unlabelled specimens in a drawer of asian, african and american Lycaenidae and Nemeobiidae which I got from a collection of the 70s - 80s. I've managed to identify some of them but the following ones remain unknown for me. Does anybody know which species or genera they could be? I know it's a big challenge... Many thanks!
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 7, 2018 10:10:15 GMT
1 Remelana jangala (Horsfield, 1829) - male 2 Hypolycaena erylus (Godart, 1823) - male 3 Iraota distanti (Staudinger, 1889) - male 4 Remelana jangala (Horsfield, 1829) - female 5 Hypolycaena erylus (Godart, 1823) - male 6 Iraota rochana (Horsfield, 1829) - female 7 Cheritra freja pallida (Druce, 1873) - male 8 Cheritra freja pallida (Druce, 1873) - female 9 Hypolycaena antifaunus (Westwood, 1851) from Africa. 10 Hypolycaena amasa (Hewitson, 1865) 11 Eooxylides tharis (Geyer, 1837) 12 Jamides celeno (Cramer, 1775) - male (if it has a strong blue hue it is pura (Moore, 1886), but it doesn't look like that on the pic) 13 Udara dilecta (Moore 1897) - male 14 Meleageria daphnis (ssp.: hackrayi Dumont, 1997 from Spain?) 15 Plebejus argus (Linnaeus, 1758) 16 Jamides celeno (Cramer, 1775) - male (if it has a strong blue hue it is pura (Moore, 1886), but it doesn't look like that on the pic) 17 Leptotes, Tarucus from Africa 18 Polyommatus (Agrodiaetus) fulgens ssp. ainsae Forster, 1961 (after W. Eckweiler in Bozana Lycaenidae pt. IV) 19 Anthene emolus (Godart, 1824) or Anthene lycaenina (Felder, 1868) when from Asia, need a better pic. In any case should be an Anthene, 20 Cupido? 21 When the others are from Spain, then this is Polyommatus (Agrodiaetus) damon ([Denis & Schiffermüller], 1775), but I have to admit that the blue doesn't look like the damon blue to me.
I think the tropical ones are from Borneo except the two African sp., and the Holarctic ones from Spain (with a small chance of Turkey, but Cupido and Plebejus wouldn't make sense AFAIK).
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Post by mcheki on Jan 7, 2018 19:28:53 GMT
I can only comment on African species as this is my interest. No 9 is definitely a male H antifaunus. I am not sure about No17 though. I do not think it is a species of Tarucus, possibly a Leptotes but I can not place it as a particular species. An enlarged photo might help.
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crino
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Post by crino on Jan 7, 2018 20:56:06 GMT
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Post by crino on Jan 7, 2018 20:57:06 GMT
and also closer pictures of #17:
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Post by trehopr1 on Jan 8, 2018 4:50:58 GMT
Wow -- and how ! ! Nomihoudai sure knows his stuff on these little fellows.... Bravo !
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Post by cormion on Jan 8, 2018 9:05:52 GMT
Hi,
Interesting old stuff.
It seems to me that Polyommatinae 14, 18 and 21 are most probably Turkish species : 14. P. daphnis ssp. versicolor ; 18. P. (A.) menalcas ; 21. P (A.) iphigenia (?).
Yvan
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Post by mcheki on Jan 8, 2018 16:08:01 GMT
and also closer pictures of #17: Thank you for the better pictures of No 17. I am pretty sure that it is not a Leptotes either. I can not place this as an African species so perhaps from elsewhere. What other specimens from Africa have you managed to identify that came from this old collection?
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Post by jshuey on Jan 9, 2018 15:05:29 GMT
and also closer pictures of #17: Thank you for the better pictures of No 17. I am pretty sure that it is not a Leptotes either. I can not place this as an African species so perhaps from elsewhere. What other specimens from Africa have you managed to identify that came from this old collection?
It could well be Leptotes cassius from Central America....
John
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crino
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Post by crino on Jan 9, 2018 21:20:22 GMT
and also closer pictures of #17: Thank you for the better pictures of No 17. I am pretty sure that it is not a Leptotes either. I can not place this as an African species so perhaps from elsewhere. What other specimens from Africa have you managed to identify that came from this old collection? Actually not many Lycaenidae from Africa: some pairs of Hewitsonia boisduvalii, Hewitsonia similis, Aethiopana honorius, Cerautola ceraunia, Cerautola crowleyi, Epitola urania, Epitola uranoides. But a lot of Charaxes that I won't keep.
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