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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 3:59:32 GMT
Hello everyone. I have here a strange Euploea leucostictos. Could this be perhaps a gynandromorph? It appears to be male on the right side and female on the left side. Abdomen does not show distinct differences, there are male hair pencils protruding from the tip.  |
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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 4:00:03 GMT
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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 4:00:30 GMT
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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 4:00:57 GMT
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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 4:01:34 GMT
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Post by Paul K on Jan 6, 2018 9:33:52 GMT
I don’t think it is gynandromorph.
Usually female forewings are slightly narrower and longer than males.
This one looks like deformation missing the bulge on the inner margin.
Paul
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Post by Paul K on Jan 6, 2018 14:35:51 GMT
Yes Jan, you are definitely right, I can see also forewing bulge is bend under as you have point it. It is hard to see on iPhone screen though.
I wouldn’t try to unfold it without rehydrate specimen at least for couple of hours, also it would be a good chance to pull down hindwing as it is set too high on that side .
Paul
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Post by neominois on Jan 6, 2018 18:08:59 GMT
Guys, the wings are flat. Their shape is not a product of pinning, they are naturally asymmetrical. It may be a malformed male, but the wing shape is definitely not because of how the butterfly was spread.
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Post by Paul K on Jan 7, 2018 1:54:39 GMT
I strongly disagree, wings are as perfectly symmetrical as they can be or I and Jan must pay visit to a doctor soon. The wings are flat as they were set this way and dry flat. The major subject has been solved anyway: it is a male, but what you will do with the specimen is totally up to your preference. I spread many Euploea specimens as this is my favourite genus of Danainae here in Thailand and I remember the bulge can be bend unnoticed in setting process as Jan mentioned before.  Cheers Paul |
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 7, 2018 8:03:52 GMT
When you zoom in you see a 'vein' at the place where Paul put the red circle, but no vein can be there. This is the bulge from the folded wing. It has also happened to me once that the wing folded completely straight and got stuck so tightly that I could not see the folded wing. Furthermore, the brown in a female would be different from the males brown. Euploea was one of my favorite Genera before moving to Lycaenidae and I used to own several drawers of them.
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