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Post by nomad on Jul 30, 2017 10:47:29 GMT
Two fine examples of this style of presentation.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jul 30, 2017 11:02:05 GMT
These will have been spread fresh, which makes it easy to do. If you try spreading the legs of relaxed specimens it is just as likely the legs will break off as they will open out.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Jul 30, 2017 11:18:06 GMT
Below. Two specimens of specimens of Trogonoptera trojana with interesting data = 1888, Palawan, Phillppines. Dr Platen. Ex coll Dr H. Eltrlingham, E Newcastle. Museum exchange 1922. Dr Carl Constantin Platen (1843-1899) was a German physican and Zoological collector of birds and butterflies. Between 1878 & 1894 he travelled extensively in the Far East, visting Celebes, Borneo, Ceram, Ambon, Sulu Islands, Palawan, Mindanao and Mindoro. He is honoured by Troides Plateni, Staudinger 1889 and by several other butterflies.
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Post by Paul K on Jul 30, 2017 14:43:31 GMT
I always have this dilemma glue broken off legs or not to glue. Is it important for the specimen to keep all of them? Usually if I glue them back they are not in original position as sometimes is hard to figure out which one goes where. What do you do ? I know it is out of topic, but it would be interesting what others do.
Paul
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Post by deliasfanatic on Jul 30, 2017 16:24:13 GMT
I just throw them out
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Post by indra on Jul 30, 2017 17:55:36 GMT
Legs are often used for DNA extraction to help ID new taxa or perform taxa revisions. They can also be a factor in describing new subspecies. For example, one criterion in describing Ornithoptera paradisea chrysanthemum was the yellow coloration on the legs unseen on other subspecies. But if it is a common butterfly, I agree with Danny...just throw them away. John G. Pasko
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Post by luehdorfia on Jul 30, 2017 18:59:42 GMT
I would put them in a very small envelope, paper triangle etc and pin it next to the specimen, that's how they would do it in a museum as I have seen in some of the display boxes that are online of German or English museums.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 18:59:47 GMT
Well if any of you have any papilio elephenor or bhutanitis ludlowi with the legs missing feel free to throw them my way.
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Post by 9822131064 on Sept 7, 2017 5:51:06 GMT
I would be most interested to know, if members regard Troides helena ab. rutilans Oberthür, 1879 shown here, as a natural occurring morph? I do have two specimens of Troides Helena Ab.Rutilans Oberthur and both are well preserved and of the black above and brown/red below variety. Vivek from Goa-India ( vit.goa@gmail.com )
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Post by nomad on Sept 7, 2017 6:12:44 GMT
Very good, can you post images of your specimens here?
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Post by 9822131064 on Sept 7, 2017 6:23:06 GMT
Vivek frm Goa-India ( vit.goa@gmail.com )
I will post photo's of the two either troides Helena ab rutilans or triodes minos (mahogany brown specimens) that I have along with a trogonoptera brookiana albescens in a couple of days time
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Post by 9822131064 on Sept 7, 2017 11:50:35 GMT
Vivek frm Goa-India ( vit.goa@gmail.com ) I will post photo's of the two either troides Helena ab rutilans or triodes minos (mahogany brown specimens) that I have along with a trogonoptera brookiana albescens in a couple of days time Posted photo Attachments:
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Post by 9822131064 on Sept 7, 2017 12:10:36 GMT
Vivek frm Goa-India ( vit.goa@gmail.com ) I will post photo's of the two either troides Helena ab rutilans or triodes minos (mahogany brown specimens) that I have along with a trogonoptera brookiana albescens in a couple of days time Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Sept 7, 2017 15:54:28 GMT
Thanks for adding the images. Did you make the wall display, holding your Troides specimens, or did you buy it with them in it?
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Post by 9822131064 on Sept 8, 2017 16:43:20 GMT
Bought by my father in the 1980's
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