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Post by mcheki on Apr 29, 2016 18:56:24 GMT
In response to the warm welcome I have received here are some photos of African butterflies, a continent that does not seem to have as many enthusiasts as elsewhere in the world. To those who are interested here are three photos to start with. Firstly four of the more unusual forms of Papilio dardanus.
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Post by mcheki on Apr 29, 2016 19:03:19 GMT
Secondly a collection of Cymothoe from various places in Africa.
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Post by mcheki on Apr 29, 2016 19:07:15 GMT
Thirdly a drawer of Mylothris since this has been a subject mentioned elsewhere recently. Please take into account that the drawers in my cabinets are for functional storage in taxonomic order and not specifically for display. Hence some disorganisation may be obvious due to lack of required space in a particular place.
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Post by nomad on Apr 29, 2016 20:34:01 GMT
Splendid. You can easily edit posts here and put them accompanying text by the right image
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Post by mcheki on Apr 29, 2016 22:12:35 GMT
Thank you, Nomad, I hope it is correct now. Is it possible to get larger pictures?
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Post by cabintom on Apr 30, 2016 4:11:40 GMT
Is it possible to get larger pictures? To get larger pictures you need to imbed images hosted elsewhere (in the past I've used photobucket, but now I'm using imgur.com <- as far as I can tell, they don't limit the maximum resolution of the photo). Once you've uploaded your picture to whichever host site, come back here and start composing your post. When you're ready, you click the "insert link" button in the post editor and past the direct link to the image. Voila! Ex. If you want people to be able to see the image at full resolution include a link as well, since proboards crams down the picture to fit the forum size.
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Post by cabintom on Apr 30, 2016 4:21:55 GMT
Also, nice boxes!
Mylothris chloris chloris/clarissa are intriguing. Both are somewhat common around here (NE D.R. Congo), flying together at the same time. Seems like either it's two separate species, or an unnecessary division into ssp.
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Post by africaone on Apr 30, 2016 7:45:31 GMT
Also, nice boxes! Mylothris chloris chloris/clarissa are intriguing. Both are somewhat common around here (NE D.R. Congo), flying together at the same time. Seems like either it's two separate species, or an unnecessary division into ssp. Berger listed them together, clarissa being considered as a form of chloris . To know exactly ... breeding
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Post by mygos on Apr 30, 2016 9:31:23 GMT
Secondly a collection of Cymothoe from various places in Africa.
Thank you for my favorite butterflies, especially showing some coranus ssp. I did describe in the past Nice lambertoni lambertoni male A+, Michel
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Post by mcheki on Apr 30, 2016 14:34:09 GMT
Thank you, Cabintom, for the information about getting a larger picture. I will give this a try for a different drawer later. Being an “oldie” getting to grips with all this technology is interesting, but I need to be pointed in the right direction first. In the meantime here is a picture of the undersides of two Uganda mylothris. In my opinion I separate chloris and agathina by the underside pattern, in particular whether the forewing apical black margin is complete or broken. This is not completely reliable and the overall appearance also has to be assessed. It does appear that two species are involved.
In response to Africaone please note in Column E of the Mylothris drawer there are two parasitic wasps. Some while ago I managed to collect over 60 pupae of Mylothris that were all attached to a wall in Nakuru, Kenya. From these only three adult butterflies emerged, all the rest were parasitized by two species of wasp. Not my lucky day!
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Post by africaone on Apr 30, 2016 16:47:16 GMT
It does appear that two species are involved.
I completely agree
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Post by cabintom on Apr 30, 2016 16:55:56 GMT
In my opinion I separate chloris and agathina by the underside pattern, in particular whether the forewing apical black margin is complete or broken. This is not completely reliable and the overall appearance also has to be assessed. It does appear that two species are involved. Yes, I would agree that Mylothris agathina and Mylothris chloris are 2 separate species, even though, if I understand correctly, there's been a fair amount of debate surrounding this in the past. First of all, they both fly together, with Mylothris agathina being a more common butterfly in this area than chloris. Secondly, there's some fairly consistent differences between the two, as you've pointed out. The question I'm intrigued with is between Mylothris chloris chloris and Mylothris chloris clarissa. The problem with this subspecies division is that they are clearly sympatric. I guess, according to Thierry (Africaone), (who is an actual entomologist, while I'm just enjoying the hobby), the only way to solve the conundrum of whether clarissa is a simple form of chloris or an altogether different species would be through rearing/breeding. For me, at the moment that's too complicated, so I'm just waiting for Steve Collins and Haydon Warren-Gash to finish their revision on the genus. Steve hinted to me that he knows the answer...
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Post by deliasfanatic on Apr 30, 2016 17:09:01 GMT
Great news to hear that they're doing a revision.
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Post by mcheki on May 3, 2016 18:51:56 GMT
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Post by mcheki on May 3, 2016 18:53:15 GMT
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