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Post by nomad on Nov 26, 2015 18:55:38 GMT
I have noticed recently that there are now many popular entomological facebook groups. While this can only be a good thing in bringing kindred souls together, please do not forget to also post your favourite specimens and study etc on the forum. Although many enjoy facebook others may not. Thank you.
Peter.
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Post by Paul K on Nov 26, 2015 19:37:24 GMT
I don't like Facebook and I don't have my profile there. I don't understand people post every 5 min what they're doing. Where is the privacy.... I guess it is the new way to express your self ...go public.
Paul
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Post by nomad on Nov 26, 2015 19:52:23 GMT
Although Facebook includes personal updates, for some many a day, I was really talking about the entomological facebook groups where many people chat about entomology, post their favourite specimens etc. I am also a member of some of these groups but also enjoy this super forum and by also posting here, you are also showing your support for our forum entomological community.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 26, 2015 20:07:31 GMT
I don't like Facebook either. Let's hope that sites like that don't take over from more traditional style forums like ICF.
By the way, my wife does use Facebook, and last night was the Loy Kratong Festival here. We went out with my son to float our Kratong (a decorated banana stem section with flowers, candle and incense sticks). My wife took a photo of me with my son and posted it to Facebook via her phone. Facebook then automatically tagged my photo as being my brother (he looks a bit like me but certainly not that close). I guess that Facebook didn't recognise it was actually me since I am not there, but it seems wierd. I wonder what happens with twins or dopplegangers?
Adam.
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Post by trehopr1 on Nov 27, 2015 6:50:17 GMT
I'm an old school collector from way back when. This forum is about as social as ever I care to be. Years ago before the advent of forums like this; the only way I ever saw others specimens or shared kindred knowledge was an old fashioned meet and greet. From there friendships were built. It did mean travel and time spent but, the reward was in the adventure which unfolded and oftentimes flourished. I very much enjoy what we have going on here at this forum and I do so hope for a long and prosperous run.
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 28, 2015 10:54:43 GMT
I think some entomological Facebook groups are interesting, especially the specialised ones.
The big problem with Facebook is that after one week or two, the content is nearly "lost". Some are posting some nice pictures of their collections, of their trips, and all this interesting content disappear. That's why classic insect forums are more useful.
Facebook is anyway a threat for Insectnet and the ICF, that's why I am posting many links there to the ICF. Let's use Facebook to bring traffic to the ICF. Those who are on Facebook can do so to help the ICF.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 28, 2015 18:07:40 GMT
"The big problem with Facebook is that after one week or two, the content is nearly "lost"."
So it's not much use if you want to look back at older stuff then?
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 28, 2015 18:14:48 GMT
It's not
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Post by nomad on Nov 28, 2015 21:38:38 GMT
I much prefer the traditional forum. As Olivier has mentions if there are many posts, your added image/post is soon lost to view on facebook groups and it takes a long time to find what you are looking for. An appeal to some is its access with mobile phones and a quick upload of images. However, after a short time the conversation is lost and you cannot pop back to it as easy as a forum. Besides I do not like writing any thing at length in that tiny font size . I believe ICF will be around for a very long time.
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Post by mygos on Nov 29, 2015 9:30:18 GMT
May be this is due because it is so easy to post photographs compare to forums ...
The problem on FB is people posting any bad photographs taken with their mobiles of common specimens with the usual stupid comments : Ah, Oh, Wow !!! Making the interesting posts lost quickly.
On the other way it is a perfect method for a good post to get appropriate and accurate answers. I personnaly have a FB page with nearly a thousand members for my entomological book passion, and it has enable me to obtain rare books for my collection or translations of foreign books in Chinese, Koreans, etc.
A+, Michel
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 22:29:45 GMT
Several members of this forum run specialist entomological sites on Facebook... Myself (Indo-Pacific Moths), Dave M (Nymphalidae), Andrew K (New Aurelians), Olivier P (Lycaenid Collectors, Delias of the World Lovers, Pieridae, Saturniidae, Insect Collectors Group, Satyrinae, Moth Collectors, Ornithoptera Collectors), Paul B (ornithoptera Collectors), Michel B (Entomological Books), Payam Z (Insect Collections Empire),are some of them... All are fine professional sites with excellent daily info and all have unlimited photograph entries. Some are open to the public, others are 'closed' or 'secret' where membership is vetted by the admin(s) to suit the site... My site, Indo-Pacific Moths, is a closed site and membership is strictly limited to 'mothers' in that area who have no objection to private collections. The info gained by our group has been immense and there is really no other place where likeminded people can get their I-P moths, large or micro, identified by real experts... For those sheeples who blanketly dismiss Facebook by saying "I don't like Facebook", I say, please don't knock it until you have tried it !! I find ICF and InsectNet quite boringly 'old school' when compared with the vibrant insect sites of Facebook... Just saying...
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Post by mantisboy on Dec 11, 2015 0:07:32 GMT
Several members of this forum run specialist entomological sites on Facebook... Myself (Indo-Pacific Moths), Dave M (Nymphalidae), Andrew K (New Aurelians), Olivier P (Lycaenid Collectors, Delias of the World Lovers, Pieridae, Saturniidae, Insect Collectors Group, Satyrinae, Moth Collectors, Ornithoptera Collectors), Paul B (ornithoptera Collectors), Michel B (Entomological Books), Payam Z (Insect Collections Empire),are some of them... All are fine professional sites with excellent daily info and all have unlimited photograph entries. Some are open to the public, others are 'closed' or 'secret' where membership is vetted by the admin(s) to suit the site... My site, Indo-Pacific Moths, is a closed site and membership is strictly limited to 'mothers' in that area who have no objection to private collections. The info gained by our group has been immense and there is really no other place where likeminded people can get their I-P moths, large or micro, identified by real experts... For those sheeples who blanketly dismiss Facebook by saying "I don't like Facebook", I say, please don't knock it until you have tried it !! I find ICF and InsectNet quite boringly 'old school' when compared with the vibrant insect sites of Facebook... Just saying... I agree with many of the comments above. It is very interesting to have such a variety of groups, with focuses ranging from Insect Collecting as a whole, to just a certain genus (such as Ornithoptera Collectors). There are groups for selling and advertising, groups for trading, from groups for beetles (I even created a Cicindelinae group), to groups for breeding cockroaches, there is something for almost any insect-related interest. One other aspect of FB which I like is the personal aspect of getting to know some of the people I formerly knew only as dunc01226 or deliasfanatic. However, I also agree that this and the other forum are both wonderful, and there is no need for them to be mutually exclusive.
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Post by cabintom on Dec 11, 2015 4:49:33 GMT
Now that my internet provider is only sending me a maximum of 20kbs FB is practically unusable. On the other hand, this forum loads without difficulty. That said, if I could, I would be checking for new posts both here and on FB on a daily basis.
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Post by nomad on Dec 11, 2015 6:16:04 GMT
I agree with many of the comments here but not all of them. As I have said yes, I am a member of many facebook groups and they are popular and they bring like minded specialists in contact. You can whizz your comments and images on in zero time and play with your mobile phone, that today is an extension of everyone's pinkies (Never mine). Specimens great and glorious appear in an endless order on facebook and thrill us by their beauty and on it goes, they whizz by, many without comments, others with comments like beautiful, wow , I wish I had that and so on, or I have that too, here is another image of it, all great fun and relaxing for those with large collections. . Do not forget a forum is only as good as your posts, so come on join in. . There is nothing wrong with old school, I am certainly an old school Aurelian , perhaps just by collecting you full into that category, because today it is all conservation and according to them, we insect collectors belong in the past. I say Our HOBBY will flourish, so will facebook but more importantly so will ICF, its new and it already has many more members than many facebook groups, the content here is amazing and detailed and goes beyond the specimen. However, everyone here, including me, enjoys seeing that Prized specimen, common or rare. If you agree and are a guest here, please join us.
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Post by trehopr1 on Dec 11, 2015 7:52:26 GMT
Many good points Nomad and I agree with you wholeheartedly ! I do however, feel offended that there are those who find this forum and Insectnet QUOTE: boringly "old school"..... I'm sorry but, that's a rather brazen comment in my book ! Kind of a low blow I'd say. Well, as you well pointed out the larger majority of those on entomological facebooks are doing little more than posting loads of exhausting pictures with few returns --- other than the token one word comment or no comment at all. All sounds rather SHALLOW to me. I say, if you truely desire in depth topics (and associated discussions), well researched articles, and the dissemination of knowledge gained thru EXPERIANCE --- than this is THE place to be ! If you feel left out for some reason; than bring a topic to the table and contribute to the forum. We're all ears.... Photo's are all very nice and greatly appreciated. I happen to think they get a LOT MORE mileage HERE than you will ever find on Facebook due to the lively questions, comments, and discussions nearly always brought up by THIS experienced AND educated "old school" crowd.
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