papalidar
New Aurelian
Posts: 23
Country: France
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Post by papalidar on Jul 26, 2015 6:43:06 GMT
Sorry,not 0 years but 30 years between 1979 (Angus Hutton) and 2009 (Cathy Aisi) Jacques
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Post by marcingajewski on Jul 26, 2015 14:22:00 GMT
Thank You for showing us those males Jaques , in my opinion they in type , is ti possible to see they verso photos ? . Marcin
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 26, 2015 18:09:01 GMT
They listed a lot of things that they never had - various Delias, for example. Yes very true, good point. the hindwings on the last two boisduvali are more rounded as with the specimen in Smarts book, don't know if this is characteristic but I suppose this could vary from one specimen to another. Rich
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 5:10:14 GMT
Here are some ssp.s of Aetheoptera victoriae (the first are the nominate ssp. and ssp. epiphanes):
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 5:12:06 GMT
These are ssp. regis (plus a female of ssp. reginae):
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 5:15:42 GMT
And here are ssp. rubianus and ssp. isabellae:
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 5:23:19 GMT
Finally, the males of ssp. reginae and ssp. maramasikensis (if you care to separate them):
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Post by timmsyrj on Aug 28, 2015 14:05:11 GMT
Finally, the males of ssp. reginae and ssp. maramasikensis (if you care to separate them): I don't think anybody can, in a long series they appear as close to each other as there type localities are on Google earth. all very nice specimens though and very well set, I see a lot of victoriae with the forewings much lower but I think these are perfect imo.. Rich
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Post by trehopr1 on Aug 28, 2015 18:24:41 GMT
An ABSOLUTELY stunning assemblage of Victoria. This species has long been my favorite of all. And your material is IMMPECCABLY prepared and simply beautiful ! ! My sincere compliments sensedigger on acquiring such FINE material. I have managed to only get 4 nice males like yours over the years. I've probably passed on 4 times as many sub-standard ones. A seemingly tough species to get nice clean specimens of.
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Post by nomad on Aug 28, 2015 19:31:03 GMT
Splendid Victoriae. I notice all the abdomens of your specimens are clean , your work? Many that I see are discoloured by body fats.
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Post by trehopr1 on Aug 28, 2015 20:46:02 GMT
I also was going to mention in my previous post that many Victoria that I've seen are "greasers" --- hence my dis-like of such specimens. However, that condition does not always present itself and so therefore some choice clean ones can be occasionally found. I have as I said found 4 clean ones over the years through old collections. I'd probably have many more if I had the option of Insect Fairs available to me.
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 21:29:08 GMT
Thanks, Rich (timmsyrj). Thanks, trehopr1. Thanks, nomad.
Yes, I had to clean (wash) quite a number of abdomens before I put these in the collection drawers. I hate greasy Ornithoptera specimens just as I hate Parnassius specimens with faded colors... And as for the manner of setting, this particular one that I stick to makes the species' unique wing shape look more "pronounced", I believe.
Victor
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 21:45:16 GMT
A "brabanti" form of ssp. reginae male (see the red scales in the apex of the FW):
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 22:11:50 GMT
And a closeup of the "noellan" form of ssp. rubianus:
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Post by sensedigger on Aug 28, 2015 22:19:03 GMT
A form of ssp. regis:
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