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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 22, 2017 9:06:10 GMT
Technically it is form leporina as the name polydorina applies to the same form of ssp. goramensis. Jordan (1909) proposed leporina for the name for the polydorus mimic form of ssp. ormenus.
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Post by crino on Dec 25, 2017 8:14:59 GMT
and what could be those? Thanks in advance!
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Post by deliasfanatic on Dec 25, 2017 14:13:31 GMT
Above is a female Papilio bridgei michae from Malaita; below is a male P. ambrax. Do you have a location (New Guinea?) for the latter?
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Post by crino on Dec 25, 2017 18:18:13 GMT
Thanks very much! But there is no data with this specimens. I got them from a collector who didn't take much care of the labelling and conservation. Many specimens miss label and existing labels are sometimes in the wrong specimen. Other are damaged by museum beetles, so I'm having a lot of work cleaning drawers and identifying / repairing specimens.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Dec 25, 2017 19:40:57 GMT
That's unfortunate about the missing data. My guess is that your ambrax is from New Guinea, which would make it the nominate (and most common) subspecies, although I haven't done an actual comparison with the other subspecies.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 25, 2017 20:12:24 GMT
It would be interesting to know the size of this specimen, the wingspan would be a good start.
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Post by crino on Dec 26, 2017 6:37:55 GMT
Wingspan of this male is 85 mm. There are also 3 females ambrax (I guess) with wingspans 80, 90 and 100 mm approx:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 26, 2017 12:24:43 GMT
After seeing the wingspan I definitely concur with deliasfanatic. If it was considerably smaller the male could possibly have been another subspecies or phestus which is probably conspecific anyway.
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