jasm
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Post by jasm on Jan 20, 2021 16:22:44 GMT
I'm back with a few more.  The two in the bottom left came in the same wax paper envelope, so I'm not sure if they're a pair of Eurema daira, or if they're just two males that were in the same envelope. The Colias does look like Colias interior, but the brown band on the forewings seems a little lighter than pictures I've found on it (the wax paper location is "Camp Sherman. Jefferson Co. Ore" June '76). I figured the genus of the middle one is Helicopus, but I'm struggling to figure out the species (maybe gnidus or acis?) The large one looks like it's a Catoblepia, but again, I don't know about the subspecies.
The last four seem to evade me. The two on the top left side should be fairly easy, but I'm stumped and I feel like I've seen the two on the bottom right somewhere before in my digging, but again I got no results.    And my first Parnassius! I'm not sure about the subspecies, but from the pictures on the web, it definitely seems like it's at least P arnassius nordmanni.   Thanks for the help!  |
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Post by Paul K on Jan 20, 2021 20:33:29 GMT
The bottom, middle Nymphalid is Hypanartia lethe
First column second from top looks like Megisto cymela
Eurema daira and these are definitely two males.
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Post by jmg on Jan 21, 2021 15:25:27 GMT
About Parnassius (Driopa) nordmanni, two subspecies :
- P. nordmanni nordmanni Ménétries, 1859, Northern slopes of Caucasus Range
- P. nordmanni thomai De Freina, 1980, Southern slopes of Caucasus Range
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Post by jmg on Jan 21, 2021 15:59:04 GMT
The Riodinid to me seems more to be: Helicopis cupido cupido (Linnaeus, 1758) or an other subspecies of cupido. Common butterfly in French Guiana, principally around streams and rivers. See: www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/t/Helicopis_a.htm Yes, it's Hypanartia lethe lethe (Fabricius, 1793), common butterfly in Colombia, Ecuador (for example). The Catoblepia seems to be xanthicles, perhaps Catoblepia xanthicles sosigenes (Fruhstorfer, 1913). Not so common in French Guiana. Not rare, anyway. And the Lycaenid (on top, left column) matches with Danis danis apollonius male from PNG. Difficult to be certain without the location ! This species flies also in West Papua (Indonesia). Or a Nacaduba species ? See: www.lepidofrance.com/lepidopteres-de-larfak-en-papua/ The butterfly on the right, bottom, is a Danainae from South America : Lycorea ilione. It's a rather common butterfly, I met it several times in Brazil and others locations in South America. It belongs to a mimetic complex with several Ithomiinae and Pericopinae. Check the subspecies on: www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/t/Lycorea_ilione_a.htm |
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Post by jasm on Jan 22, 2021 2:15:47 GMT
Thank you both for your responses! Both of the Parnassius pictures were of the same butterfly so I'm a bit confused on your last line jmg. I probably didn't give enough detail in the two pictures I gave  . I've got some better close-ups to help out. Even thought the paper doesn't have any specific location, would it be likely that it is ssp. thomai just because of what was written on the paper triangle (if the collector knew what he was doing)? I would tend to think not... but I'm not really sure.  (recto)  (verso) Again, thanks for the helpful information! (Boy do I wish there was better collection data  ) |
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Post by jmg on Jan 22, 2021 2:39:28 GMT
Better with larger pictures !
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Post by bobw on Jan 22, 2021 9:47:34 GMT
Looks like a male to me, it's got a hairy abdomen and no sphragis.
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Post by bobw on Jan 22, 2021 13:56:03 GMT
...and the Colias is indeed a female interior.
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Post by jasm on Jan 22, 2021 19:11:06 GMT
One more then I'll be done (for a while at least). A large Papilio that I can't seem to figure out. There are a good amount of blue speckles dispersed evenly across the forewing and hindwing and they condense in a few places along the hindwing, a few of which you can easily see from the picture:   No collection data. -Jack |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 22, 2021 20:15:08 GMT
Papilio deiphobus deiphobus male from S Moluccas, probably Ceram or Ambon.
Adam.
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Post by xavm (Xavier) on Feb 19, 2021 15:01:59 GMT
Thank you both for your responses! Both of the Parnassius pictures were of the same butterfly so I'm a bit confused on your last line jmg. I probably didn't give enough detail in the two pictures I gave . I've got some better close-ups to help out. Even thought the paper doesn't have any specific location, would it be likely that it is ssp. thomai just because of what was written on the paper triangle (if the collector knew what he was doing)? I would tend to think not... but I'm not really sure. (recto) (verso) Again, thanks for the helpful information! (Boy do I wish there was better collection data ) Hi Jasm, It looks like thomai ssp, with reduced black margin compared to the moninate sp. and the nexilis band between the two ocelli. ssp thomai is from Turkei, hence difficult to obtain now. Best wishes, Xavier |
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Post by jasm on Feb 19, 2021 15:16:55 GMT
Very interesting Xavier... Thanks for the help!
-Jack
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The two in the bottom left came in the same wax paper envelope, so I'm not sure if they're a pair of Eurema daira, or if they're just two males that were in the same envelope. The Colias does look like Colias interior, but the brown band on the forewings seems a little lighter than pictures I've found on it (the wax paper location is "Camp Sherman. Jefferson Co. Ore" June '76).
. I've got some better close-ups to help out. Even thought the paper doesn't have any specific location, would it be likely that it is ssp. thomai just because of what was written on the paper triangle (if the collector knew what he was doing)? I would tend to think not... but I'm not really sure.
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