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Post by africaone on Mar 11, 2020 9:45:27 GMT
africaone If that was the case I'd have a lot more specimens. I wish I knew the foodplant. One was caught flying up the rift escarpment. Pure luck on my part with the overhead swing. The second was feeding at Tridax (I think), in an area of cow pasture which has very little variety in terms of plants. do you have forest near there, a gallery forest ? Unusual to se females far from the foodplant. Did you record the hour of catching ?
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Post by cabintom on Mar 12, 2020 4:30:05 GMT
africaone There's very little forest in the area. There are some isolated pockets of gallery forest, wedged where the hills are to steep to cultivate, but not very near where I caught the butterflies. The first one was caught later in the afternoon, the second about mid morning. My assumption is that they were dispersing (is that the term?) looking for new patches of foodplant.
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Post by mothylator on Mar 16, 2020 1:22:56 GMT
So I have another question about distribution this time. Michel Libert (2007) give some useful distribution maps for a few graphium species which occur in Cameroun. I wondered about the DRC distribution of G. simoni, which isn't completely addressed.
Does anyone know if it has been found in DRC as far NE as Biakatu, Ituri Province? Also a list of taxons ( cabintom?) from the Adamastor Species Group found in Ituri & N Kivu would be most helpful to me? Thanks muchly for any distribution info, most gratefully received. A
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Post by deliasfanatic on Mar 16, 2020 3:28:34 GMT
So I have another question about distribution this time. Michel Libert (2007) give some useful distribution maps for a few graphium species which occur in Cameroun. I wondered about the DRC distribution of G. simoni, which isn't completely addressed.
Does anyone know if it has been found in DRC as far NE as Biakatu, Ituri Province? Also a list of taxons ( cabintom ?) from the Adamastor Species Group found in Ituri & N Kivu would be most helpful to me? Thanks muchly for any distribution info, most gratefully received. A I doubt it, especially since that's a well collected area. Mine is from the west-NW area (can't remember offhand but I want to say Kinshasa) and it seems very uncommon in collections.
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Post by africaone on Mar 16, 2020 6:52:24 GMT
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Post by mothylator on Mar 16, 2020 9:06:08 GMT
Thank you both. Extremely helpful reference, thanks a lot.
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Post by cabintom on Mar 17, 2020 14:38:11 GMT
mothylator I would have sent you a link to Ducarme's checklist as well. It's worth noting that even just 100kms north of where Ducarme and his collectors focused I've found species not included in the checklist, Papilio plagiatus being one of them.
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Post by africaone on Mar 20, 2020 15:10:10 GMT
also missing Graphium biokensis that occurs there (I have in collection)
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Post by cabintom on Mar 23, 2020 4:41:39 GMT
africaone You have G. biokoensis from north-eastern DRC?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 23, 2020 9:22:53 GMT
Perhaps africaone meant northwestern DRC? Adam.
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Post by africaone on Mar 23, 2020 9:50:30 GMT
africaone You have G. biokoensis from north-eastern DRC? yes, because of confusion with policenes it is not spotted. It is a more indeep forest species than policenes that is found everywhere. This species has a strange story and inland population was confused in many names before being correctly named (nigrescens, policenoides, liponesco). I bred it in Cameroon. I first believed I bred policenes and released nearly all my specimens (including the females ) in nature except a voucher pair. When Collins visited me in Cameroun in 1992, he didn't recognise the pattern of policenes caterpillar but didn't relied it to "biokensis". As he told me it was interesting, I kept then a few pairs but it was at the end of my sejour. I realised what it was when reading Darge's paper (under the name nigrescens). Then liponesco came on the table and after, it was fixed as biokensis. The nomenclatural situation was cleared by Larsen in 1994. But the story for me is earlier. When being very young (18 y at the beginning of the 80s), I put apart of the very common policenes from my region Katanga, some specimens that I suspected "being new" (what I hoped ) and I submitted directly to Berger. He was not convinced (as usual with him) and told me that it was nigrescens (one of the ancient name). The systematic at this time was very unclear but I kept a doubt (regarding some specimen of the true nigrescens, quite different) it was new. I sent then many specimens everywhere to many "specialist" and collectors including BM (< Dick V-W) and SCC (not yet ABRI) and others I don't remember (some are probably reading this post ). Total disappointment that nobody was interested to study the case but everyone wants somme specimens for their collection . It helped me understand how the system works ... That recalls me to publish first instars .
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Post by cabintom on Mar 23, 2020 17:27:06 GMT
yes, because of confusion with policenes it is not spotted. It is a more indeep forest species than policenes that is found everywhere. Would you mind sharing specific localities? I'd hate to overlook it!
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Post by africaone on Mar 24, 2020 8:34:15 GMT
many yet papered (not easy to access) but at Least Pateka (Kivu) and in Tshopo around Kis. In Katanga it was from Lualaba river between Luena and Bukama.
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Post by africaone on Apr 12, 2020 12:43:10 GMT
I intended to put specimen of biokoensis from congo but I had a message that forum exeeded his volume
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 12, 2020 16:13:50 GMT
africaone, Please upload the photos to a FREE photo hosting website and then link them here. It's really easy when you get used to it and you can put many photos in a single post. We recommend using imgur.com (but there are a number of other free sites) Here's what I posted in the thread about uploading images (https://collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/11/attach-picture): Yes, it can be confusing at first, I also had problems trying to work it out. What you have to do is open imgur.com and assuming you are logged on (it remembers you if you told it to) you will see your user name at the top right. Hover your mouse on the user name and a dropdown menu will appear. Click the word "Images", then you will see a green "Add Images" button. You can then choose and upload photos. After the images are uploaded you can right click on a thumbnail to open an image then hover your mouse over the image and a URL will appear with the word "Copy" and a dropdown menu symbol. Hover over the dropdown symbol and then click on "Get share links". You will then see 4 choices of links and click "Copy" next to the one labelled "BBCode (Forums)". You can then paste the copied link into the text where you want the photo to appear in the forum post and the pics will appear after you post the reply or create a post. See what trehopr1 had to say about it here: collector-secret.proboards.com/threads/recent/3115Adam.
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