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Post by Paul K on Apr 20, 2020 22:09:34 GMT
I totally agree with your comment Adam.
Well said.
Paul
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Post by Paul K on Apr 21, 2020 1:33:18 GMT
I suppose Marco decided to continue his practice and he withdraw his positive last comment where he promised to include some honest information about how he is obtaining his aberrations.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 21, 2020 8:36:49 GMT
I missed his reply, which has been removed. He also seems to have deleted his original post which I replied to. That's a pity, because I for one, and I expect everyone else, welcome his posts here.
Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 21, 2020 8:39:23 GMT
Sadly it seems he has not only deleted the posts here, but also his membership of the forum. That's a pity.
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Apr 21, 2020 12:53:31 GMT
Ah, well, the greed took over again. He is also advertising his creations on Facebook but unlike here he can delete all unwanted posts and block other members who may talk too much and hurt his "business".
Luckily we have this forum and people can freely share their thoughts and experiences without any interference.
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Post by wollastoni on May 3, 2020 17:25:13 GMT
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 3, 2020 19:55:39 GMT
wollastoni , I am happy to hear that he has now edited his eBay pages to explain the origin of his aberrations. Hopefully he also states that they are not only captive bred, which was actually already inferred on his homepage before, but that they are artificially induced, not natural or genetic aberrations. The only objection I had was that he did not mention this in his eBay item pages or his homepage. I have absolutely no objection to the amount of money people are prepared to bid on his specimens, the more he cam make the better, as I am sure his overheads are very high. I would also like to say that I think that his experiments can provide important insights into colour and pattern development in Lepidoptera pupae. It is a pity that he deleted his account on the forum. Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 4, 2020 8:29:10 GMT
I am very happy to see that Marco has now included this statement in his eBay item page
"Butterfly aberrations supplied by me are unique specimens obtained during my experimental research on the lepidopteran wing pattern. Further scientific information can be provided to the buyer."
That is great, and I wish him all success, both with the scientific studies and raising funds from selling specimens. The Papilio glaucus aberration on sale right now is superb.
Adam.
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Post by luehdorfia on May 5, 2020 9:32:32 GMT
I do really like his specimens, and when he says he provides some scientific info how they were done, it even makes them more valuable.
Think of all the captive bred stock in England were the breeding stock was lost, they are now super valuable. And I think it’s definitely not easy to “copy” his method, so his specimens are still super valuable.
I like to compare it with a nice Austrian Sacher cake, you can google the recipe online, you can buy all ingredients in any supermarket, you can even look at YouTube instruction videos, but will you be able to make a perfect Sacher cake? Or will you still like to buy the original? Or just a professional one by a bakery? Making it yourself is painful, time consuming and success not guaranteed, same goes for these specimens. It’s like a star chef creation, so he shouldn’t worry about telling people that he is doing it himself, it’s a great thing, valuable for many people, and very impressive.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 5, 2020 13:13:02 GMT
Good to hear that he provides the buyer with information about the method used to make the specimen. That information is equivalent to locality data for a wild collected butterfly.
Adam.
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