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Post by wollastoni on Jan 26, 2015 11:43:55 GMT
Some recent butterfly artworks of the famous Damien Hirst The cost of this last artwork is 2 Million dollars. As he used "farmed butterflies" to do so, he doesn't threaten any natural butterfly populations. But, as entomologists, what do you think of it ? Splendid? Stupid ? Scandalous ? I have to say I am not sure, I hesitate between those 3 adjectives...
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Post by mygos on Jan 26, 2015 17:35:20 GMT
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 26, 2015 19:24:54 GMT
Thanks Michel, I have corrected the error on his first name.
And indeed my question was : do you like it ?
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Post by mygos on Jan 26, 2015 21:08:22 GMT
More or less I should say ! The "elegance" is not there for me ...
A+, Michel
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Post by cabintom on Jan 26, 2015 21:26:16 GMT
A friend of mine, in D.R. Congo, had a "painting" made from butterfly wings which she said was rather beautiful. Unfortunately, it got stolen during some riots and looting that took place a couple years ago. She had acquired it originally from Central African Republic. It sounds like before the recent turmoil in the region, it wasn't difficult to come across this sort of art... so it doesn't seem like what Damien has done is all that new... though he definitely has gone large scale.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Jan 26, 2015 21:32:01 GMT
Tom's comment is similar to what I was thinking: it looks like a large-sized version of craft/tourist items that have been around for many years, especially the one in the first photo. I don't really see a difference in that one, other than size.
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Post by trehopr1 on Jan 27, 2015 6:04:48 GMT
I can't help but say that THIS sort of wanton destruction of life all in the namesake of art (or one individuals interpretation of it) ultimately only serves to further give us ALL a bad (or worse) reputation than we already have. Again, it's all about butterflies, their beauty, and the fascination & admiration that people have always accorded them. If the artwork were beetles,ants, cockroaches, walking sticks, flies etc.--- no one would care. That SORT of life (or the taking of it) has no meaning to people. If it's outwardly beautiful, furry, delicate, submissive etc. etc. you had better stay away like you have leprosy. We all know that if the artist didn't use those butterflies somebody else would. Fact is, there is a multi-million dollar business in farming butterflies for artwork, butterfly houses, releases at weddings and on and on. However, most people have no idea of such things. So heaven help you if you pull a net out in Britain or casually stroll by the border of a state or national park in the U.S. (an overzealous ranger may see you). Appearances like this just come across to many as being wasteful, cruel, heartless, shallow and VERY negative all around. And just like the "trickle down" theory we hobbyists suffer the collateral damage of it.
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Post by nomad on Jan 27, 2015 6:06:06 GMT
I am afraid, I am not a fan of this artist (??), in my humble opinion, a lot of what he does, fall short of true art.
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Post by Paul K on Jan 27, 2015 23:49:16 GMT
To me it looks like the Persian carpet not the art and it is the killing of living creature farmed or cought doesn't metter. He doesn't do the damage to the balance of nature -true. We all use leather jackets , sofas , eat bbq steaks and so on. So it is very controversial topic. We kill animals and plants for our use , but Is it always necessary?
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tiass
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Post by tiass on Feb 4, 2015 14:28:10 GMT
For me it is simple waste of life .. even if most of insects come form farming. It's like tourist Kitschy small frames ( which are actually throw away after some time being exhibit in some dusty wall or shelf)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:25:34 GMT
Personally I cringe when I see thousands of specimens killed to be used in such a way but it's only my opinion, it does nothing for me, but catch a few voucher specimens over here in the UK for study and watch the PC do gooders come running out of the woodwork.
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Post by cabintom on Feb 6, 2015 20:21:17 GMT
I'm curious, if he'd made something like this with flies (or mosquitoes, etc.), would we feel similarly?
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Post by mygos on Feb 6, 2015 21:22:57 GMT
I'm curious, if he'd made something like this with flies (or mosquitoes, etc.), would we feel similarly? Good comment Tom, and so true ! A+, Michel
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Post by jensb on Feb 18, 2015 10:56:28 GMT
ÏI dont like it at all. It where still living beings. Even if it where mosquitos. If they got bred to kill for artwork i wouldn't agree on it. If they where captured from the wild it would be worse. there larva are still an important food source for water animals. i wouldn't like it if they killed a cow only to use there blood for an art work. No live should be given to use as amusment of no animal.
greets jens
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Post by peroxysome on Apr 26, 2017 20:31:46 GMT
I think the artwork is interesting. I guess many of the specimens were from farms and anyway, all of us probably had to think about killing insects being okay or not, and here we are. Also there's obviously a selective empathy toward butterflies... Kaleidoscopic pattern as in psychedelic art evokes something deeper and a search for meaning. In "the kingdom of father" there is obviously a religious reference, so i see this as a depiction of heaven through the most beautiful images and sensations nature has to offer. It must be captivating to see this live, i'd look at it for hours.
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