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Post by cabintom on Jan 28, 2015 19:22:21 GMT
How can you distinguish between a moth and butterfly larva? |
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 28, 2015 19:23:27 GMT
Dear Keith
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Post by EarlyStages on Jan 29, 2015 9:22:29 GMT
How can you distinguish between a moth and butterfly larva? There is no simple/universal way to differentiate the two – many immature butterflies look almost exactly like those of moths and vice versa, especially to the untrained eye. Thus, it is ultimately a matter of experience, knowledge, and occasionally intuition. In the case of Tatiana's larva, the thumbnail was too small to completely exclude such Amathusiini as Faunis and possibly Thauria. Keith |
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 29, 2015 10:27:41 GMT
Would be great to create a "Caterpillars of the World" website with a simple and efficient double-architecture per country and per family (like the Delias website for example)
It is a life-task though.
Are you already working on it Keith ?
I don't have the entomological knowledge to help but I can help on the website architecture/software part.
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Post by EarlyStages on Jan 30, 2015 4:52:21 GMT
Indeed I am, the interim "placeholder" (my retirement project) being here. Keith |
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Post by krupten on Feb 2, 2015 10:25:07 GMT
dear Keith - the larvae is not Faunua nor Thauria - both I have reared - I would need some idea of the size - but preliminary id is that is of the genus Euterope. Just a wild guess and I have done these too - but not the ones from Northern Sumatra. A good person who MAY know is Arbaimun who is from this area - Cheers Greg
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Post by tatiana on Feb 3, 2015 20:46:31 GMT
Thank you very much dear experts for ID of the butterflies from Northern Sumatra! It's great that there are so many persons -specialist on Lepidoptera fauna of Indonesia! Best wishes to all! Tatiana I will share with other butterflies and other insects photo , but these have to be reduced in size. Many thanks again to all !  It is probably a caterpillar of Erebus macrops |
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Post by tatiana on Feb 3, 2015 20:54:08 GMT
Thank you to all who ID the butterfly on my pictures!!
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Post by EarlyStages on Feb 4, 2015 18:20:48 GMT
dear Keith - the larvae is not Faunua nor Thauria - both I have reared - I would need some idea of the size - but preliminary id is that is of the genus Euterope. Just a wild guess and I have done these too - but not the ones from Northern Sumatra. A good person who MAY know is Arbaimun who is from this area - Cheers Greg Thanks Greg. Yes, the bigger photo eliminated all Faunis caterpillars I have reared or seen, while I do not believe only somewhat similar Thauria aliris occurs in Sumatra. I have not heard of nor can find any amathusiine genus named "Euterope", but regardless still feel (as stated earlier) that the appearance of this large larva, specifically the extreme length and curliness of the dorsal hairs, makes it almost certainly an immature moth. Keith |
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Post by krupten on Feb 9, 2015 1:14:22 GMT
dear Keith - the larvae is not Faunua nor Thauria - both I have reared - I would need some idea of the size - but preliminary id is that is of the genus Euterope. Just a wild guess and I have done these too - but not the ones from Northern Sumatra. A good person who MAY know is Arbaimun who is from this area - Cheers Greg Thanks Greg. Yes, the bigger photo eliminated all Faunis caterpillars I have reared or seen, while I do not believe only somewhat similar Thauria aliris occurs in Sumatra. I have not heard of nor can find any amathusiine genus named "Euterope", but regardless still feel (as stated earlier) that the appearance of this large larva, specifically the extreme length and curliness of the dorsal hairs, makes it almost certainly an immature moth. Keith HI Keith Euterope is a genus in the Saturnid family. The larvae are hirsute - but have many interesting habits. Additionally the hairs are urticating in the latter instars. Most are nocturnal in their feeding habits and then proceed to either the base of the hostplant where they go under rocks or other debris during the day. their growth patter is very slow taking as much as 6 months to mature and pupate. Cheers |
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Post by cabintom on Feb 9, 2015 4:59:03 GMT
Euterope is a genus in the Saturnid family. I am curious about this genus but am unable to return any relevant results on google... |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 9, 2015 10:55:09 GMT
I think Greg actually means Eupterote which is the type genus of the Eupterotidae, a family of moths that look very similar to Saturniidae.
Adam.
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Post by krupten on Feb 9, 2015 14:17:59 GMT
thanks Adam - old age - far too much aluminium in my system and copious amounts of medicinal additives have not only relived me of the symptoms of my allergies but that of my cognizance - Cheers Greg
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