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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 20, 2017 22:11:03 GMT
The best currently available and most extensive information on Arhopala is found in the butterflies of Thailand vol. 2 by Kimura.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that my plans for going full time into Lepidoptera, starting April, will work out. Then I hope to be able to offer a good alternative by the end of this year.
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 21, 2017 9:48:00 GMT
Let's keep our fingers crossed that my plans for going full time into Lepidoptera, starting April, will work out. Then I hope to be able to offer a good alternative by the end of this year. We all hope you will achieve to create your Lycaenidae website soon! It will be a precious resource for all! And it is true that IDing Arhopala is very hard, especially from live specimen pictures.
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Post by nomad on Jan 24, 2017 12:39:10 GMT
Would a female of Thaumantis klugius candika be considered a rarity? Anyone have a pair to show? In many collections? This Lycaenidae was not in particularly good condition but it is about the largest I have yet seen from the Oriental region. That is quite a large label beside it. I do not have Bernard d'Abrera books on this region, so can you name this one? The underside.
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Post by nomad on Jan 24, 2017 12:42:49 GMT
Also unknown.
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Post by nomad on Jan 25, 2017 9:19:29 GMT
Lexias dirtea montana Hagen, 1896 . Nymphalidae. Very diomorphic. Not rare but nice.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 25, 2017 11:02:57 GMT
Are you sure this isn't Lexias pardalis? In Thailand the difference between the two similar species is easy to see, because pardalis has orange tips to the antennae, whereas in dirtea they are black. Perhaps this difference does not hold in Sumatra, though.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Jan 25, 2017 13:34:48 GMT
Quite possibly you are correct Adam. Then it would be L. p. nephritica Fruhstorfer, 1913. I am only following the species labels placed beneath the specimens in their cabinet drawers.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Jan 25, 2017 14:29:33 GMT
IIRC, the antenna difference does hold true through the range of both species.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 25, 2017 14:37:58 GMT
Yes, I seem to think that I also heard that the difference in colour of the tip of antennae is not constant. Hopefully someone here who knows the Lexias species can help confirm which species this is.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Jan 25, 2017 16:30:00 GMT
I added undersides images of two of the Arhopala species shown in this thread. It would be interesting to know if anybody could now ID which species they are.
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 25, 2017 17:03:28 GMT
The second one should be a female Arhopala amantes (Hewitson, 1862). For the other one I need to check another book. (Identified by the elongated brown patch next to the lower forewing border)
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 25, 2017 17:19:38 GMT
The first one matches the pattern of Arhopala anarte (Hewitson, 1862) the most, as pictured in Butterflies of Borneo. Also the size points to A. anarte.
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Post by nomad on Jan 25, 2017 20:50:49 GMT
Many thanks nomihoudai. I wish you you every success in your forthcoming ventures. Will your website be concerned with Worldwide Lycaenidae or just those from Asia. If it is the former, then that is quite a project you are undertaking.
Peter.
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 25, 2017 21:07:43 GMT
Worldwide. I've got some plans on how to manage this What I can add is that I second Adam's notion. For Arhopala you absolutely need the ventral side. Rgds, Claude.
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Post by nomad on Feb 20, 2017 5:15:17 GMT
Cabinet drawer of Sumatran Sphingidae.
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