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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 10, 2016 13:43:04 GMT
Thanks for the link to the paper on Papilio bacelarae, Teinopalpus. I've not seen it before; it certainly looks distinct judging by the illustration.
P. ufipa is rather scarce; I see it offered now and then (but I've not yet seen a female), but that's most unfortunate news about Mbizi Forest.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 10, 2016 14:12:00 GMT
Here are some drawer photos; they're a bit outdated, but I don't have time to make new ones at the moment. I'll point out the specimens of interest to this topic in case it's difficult to read the name labels. Most of these are old specimens gleaned from collections over the decades, some going back as far as 1931. There are quite a few females here also, which are always scarce in Graphium; most are similar to the males except often larger. 1) Col. 3, last specimen: G. junodi (pre-civil war Mozambique; hopefully more will begin to emerge now that the war is over): Graphium African drawer 01 1070 by D B, on Flickr 2) Col. 4 (top 2): G. policenoides (often known as G. nigrescens, but that name is not valid): Graphium African drawer 02 1071 by D B, on Flickr 3) Col. 1 (bottom): G. flavisparsus: Graphium African drawer 03 1072 by D B, on Flickr 4) None of the taxa in the "rarities" list are in this photo, but I may as well show all of my African Graphium drawers for completion. G. schaffgotschi wasn't present at the time this photo was taken; it's illustrated separately below. Graphium African drawer 04 1073 by D B, on Flickr 5) G. schaffgotchi: G schaffgotschi M R 1430 by D B, on Flickr G schaffgotschi M V 1431 by D B, on Flickr 6) Col. 2 (bottom): G. levassori. It needs to be reset, but I don't dare do it since it has a small glued repair that could come loose! Also of interest is the specimen in upper left corner, an undescribed ssp of G. leonidas from Fernando Po (Bioko). The specimen under it is also a considerable rarity, the only one I've ever seen (G. leonidas santamarthae): Graphium African drawer 05 1074 by D B, on Flickr 7) Again, nothing on the present rarity list, but I'll show the drawer for additional interest. The pair of G. philonoe whalleyi (bottom of Col. 2) is quite rare: Graphium African drawer 06 1075 by D B, on Flickr 8) Again, an outdated photo, but illustrates several from the list: Col. 4 (bottom): G. kigoma; Col. 6 (bottom 2): G. simoni and deliae. Graphium African drawer 07 1076 by D B, on Flickr
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Post by timmsyrj on Oct 10, 2016 15:15:32 GMT
WOW ! What more can I say. Rich
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Post by mcheki on Oct 10, 2016 15:38:34 GMT
Especially for you, Deliasfanatic. Another specimen of G leonidas santamarthae. Also females of the Sao Tome subspecies G l sanctithomae
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Post by mcheki on Oct 10, 2016 15:44:23 GMT
Anyway I would like to mention 2 other african taxons : --------------------, Papilio ufipa. Although at least second one is sometimes available, it can be changed very soon as locality got hit. Two specimens of Papilio ufipa. One is in poor condition but better than no specimen. Again the picture cropped from the drawer photo.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 10, 2016 15:44:28 GMT
Aha! Great find for santamarthae. Re: sanctithomae, I'm showing that the valid name is thomasius. Must check into this...
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Post by africaone on Oct 10, 2016 16:52:26 GMT
as real rarity we forgot Papilio nerminae from Sao Tome
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Post by mcheki on Oct 10, 2016 17:44:04 GMT
as real rarity we forgot Papilio nerminae from Sao Tome
Very difficult to obtain, but I was lucky. Here is a pair.
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 10, 2016 17:50:34 GMT
I have two males. You're lucky to have found a female!
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Post by trehopr1 on Oct 10, 2016 18:10:15 GMT
Gosh, I really "hit the nail on the head" when I thought of this thread. Fantastic rarities (not seen in any books I have) and, great photos from some really incredible collections ! Of the rarities shown my absolute favorite is Graphium flavisparsus (O'h my, be still my heart...) and Papilio ufipa + nerminae (very nice). It certainly takes a sharp eye, knowledge, experiance, and a measure of good luck to acquire these kinds of things. Bravo gentlemen !
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 10, 2016 21:29:10 GMT
G. flavisparsus is something special, isn't it? Described by Fruhstorfer in 1903, it was known from a single specimen until the French collector J-G Canu rediscovered it in the 1980s. The small number in collections today were all caught by him up until around 1991 or so, AFAIK. I was told that it occurs only near an isolated beach on the south side of the island, which could only be accessed by canoe. Which makes for an appropriate interlingual pun Unfortunately, collecting on Fernando Po has been banned for some time now, and no further specimens come from the island; the female is still unknown.
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Post by africaone on Oct 11, 2016 6:22:02 GMT
G. flavisparsus is something special, isn't it? Described by Fruhstorfer in 1903, it was known from a single specimen until the French collector J-G Canu rediscovered it in the 1980s. The small number in collections today were all caught by him up until around 1991 or so, AFAIK. I was told that it occurs only near an isolated beach on the south side of the island, which could only be accessed by canoe. Which makes for an appropriate interlingual pun Unfortunately, collecting on Fernando Po has been banned for some time now, and no further specimens come from the island; the female is still unknown. not totally complete. there is a small series more recent in a private collection.
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Post by teinopalpus on Oct 11, 2016 14:42:13 GMT
Wonderful photos of african rarities, many thanks for all. Here is Papilio ufipa from mentined Mbizi forest. Jan
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Post by teinopalpus on Oct 11, 2016 14:47:31 GMT
Also when we were talking about Fernando Po /Bioko/ I am adding here pair of nominate Papilio fernandus fernandus. Also not common stuff. In addition some authors believe that only nominotypical ssp.fernandus belong to this species while "continent" ssp.praecyola belongs to Papilio cyproeofila. Jan
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 11, 2016 17:09:29 GMT
Thank you so much all of you for sharing those splendid rarities with us ! WOW !
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