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Post by wollastoni on Dec 18, 2014 22:32:26 GMT
An antimachus gynandro Some guys are really lucky ! No wonder Steve is a great discoverer !
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Post by nomad on Dec 19, 2014 6:23:15 GMT
Hardly anyone has managed to capture a female antimachus or has one in their collection and Steve Collins captures a gynandromorph, now that is some luck. I wonder where the specimen is now, I would love to see a image of this specimen. I cannot wait to see what Steve Collins has to say about the Barns antizox, any news Michel .
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Post by deliasfanatic on Dec 19, 2014 6:29:11 GMT
Steve would still have the specimen, without question....his collection = ABRI (African Butterfly Research Institute) in Nairobi. The collection contains, well, practically everything that exists in Africa.
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 7:20:59 GMT
Steve would still have the specimen, without question....his collection = ABRI (African Butterfly Research Institute) in Nairobi. The collection contains, well, practically everything that exists in Africa. So true Danny ! I will try to get a photograph of this antimachus from Steve for you ... A+, Michel
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 8:16:43 GMT
Thanks to Bernard and Lucilla d'Abrera, I am pleased to reproduce here the photographs shown in Bernard d'Abrera book "Butterflies of the Afrotropical region, second edition, part I, reproduced from page 8, with their kind permission. copyright Bernard d'Abrera 2004 copyright Bernard d'Abrera 2004 A+, Michel
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 19, 2014 8:26:18 GMT
Splendid !
Thanks a lot to you Michel and to Bernard D'Abrera for his authorization. It is an honour for this young forum !
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 10:59:04 GMT
Olivier, You should write Bernard d'Abrera with a lower case "d", even when at the beginning of a sentence !
A+, Michel
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 19, 2014 14:26:09 GMT
Olivier, You should write Bernard d'Abrera with a lower case "d", even when at the beginning of a sentence ! A+, Michel Actually, Bernard used both D'Abrera and d'Abrera in different publications. If you check the first edition of the Afrotropical work his name appears on the cover with a 'D', but in the 2nd edition he spelt it with a 'd'. Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 19, 2014 14:36:41 GMT
Michel said: "Thanks to Bernard and Lucilla d'Abrera, I am pleased to reproduce here the photographs shown in Bernard d'Abrera book "Butterflies of the Afrotropical region, second edition, part I, reproduced from page 8, with their kind permission."
You can even see the handwritten note stating that Pomeroy actually caught one in 1913 at Ossidinga, Congo (which Tom has pointed out may be the same place as a location in Cameroon), but his whole collection was lost in transit. Interestingly this was actually 6 years before Barns encountered the specimen he painted.
I wonder if anyone can also track down the origin of the report of a specimen from Liberia. Maybe Peter can find the information about this sighting.
Adam.
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 14:42:31 GMT
Olivier, You should write Bernard d'Abrera with a lower case "d", even when at the beginning of a sentence ! A+, Michel Actually, Bernard used both D'Abrera and d'Abrera in different publications. If you check the first edition of the Afrotropical work his name appears on the cover with a 'D', but in the 2nd edition he spelt it with a 'd'. Adam. Adam, That must have been a printer mistake as I made the comment after Bernard and Lucilla read this thread and made the remark A+, Michel
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Post by nomad on Dec 19, 2014 14:51:36 GMT
Thank you Michel and to Bernard d' Abrera for his colour drawing of the antizox. A strange insect indeed, perhaps it may be unlikely but the specimen in the figure looks more like a hybrid than an aberration. As Barns saw his strange Papilio in 1919 and it is now nearly 2015, it would seem even more unlikely that what Barns saw was in fact a new species unless it is very rare and local butterfly and occurs usually only in the high canopy.
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 19, 2014 14:54:45 GMT
Seeing those colors with FW of zalmoxis and HW of antimachus make me even more think about a "fake"... Hybrids are a mix of 2 species, not a juxtaposition...
Hope to be wrong though.
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 14:57:53 GMT
Seeing those colors with FW of zalmoxis and HW of antimachus make me even more think about a "fake"... Hybrids are a mix of 2 species, not a juxtaposition... Hope to be wrong though. I agree with you and this antizox looks most "improbable" ! A+, Michel
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Post by mygos on Dec 19, 2014 15:05:51 GMT
In the same time other mysterious animals came from that same region such as the Okapi (Okapia johnstoni) or the Congo Peafowl (Afropavo congensis)! For the last one, scientist could not believe the first feathers that were brought back by the explorers who find them ...
A+, Michel
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Post by nomad on Dec 19, 2014 15:07:49 GMT
The hand writing on the text from d'Abrera mentions a specimen of antizox caught by Pomezoy? in 1913 but was lost on his journey. Who was he.
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