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Post by trehopr1 on May 3, 2016 19:59:31 GMT
Now there's a group we hardly ever see posted. I love the first 4 rows of the first picture and the 2nd thru 5th rows of the second one. Your fortunate to have such nice variety among your African satyrinae.
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Post by mcheki on May 10, 2016 16:14:40 GMT
African Danaidae are not often posted so here are some Amauris and Euploea to share. The first of two drawers:-
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Post by mcheki on May 10, 2016 16:15:36 GMT
Also the second one:-
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 10, 2016 17:06:18 GMT
Great to see some of the species that don't get as much attention.
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Post by mcheki on Jun 16, 2016 10:05:49 GMT
Great to see some of the species that don't get as much attention. Here are some three further species that are not often seen. Also for the Mylothris lovers in the group. The first is Mylothris humbloti that is found only in the Comoro Islands. in this case on the island of Anjouan.
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Post by mcheki on Jun 16, 2016 10:21:37 GMT
The second Mylothris species in this post is Mylothris solilucis which comes from Mount Kala in Cameroon. The male is above the female in all the three photos.
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Post by mcheki on Jun 16, 2016 10:23:38 GMT
The third species is Mylothris poppea. This is a West African species and this pair come from Togo.
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Post by africaone on Jun 16, 2016 18:48:02 GMT
The second Mylothris species in this post is Mylothris solilucis which comes from Mount Kala in Cameroon. The male is above the female in all the three photos.
isn't solilucis a Belenois ?
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Post by mcheki on Jun 17, 2016 14:08:37 GMT
You are correct in that there is a Belenois solilucis. See the photo. This pair are from west Tanzania. The female is variable and has a yellow form too. I have also a female from Kibale Forest in Uganda that is orange.
I originally determined the Mylothris I showed earlier as Mylothris flaviana. On Checking BUTTERFLIES AND SKIPPERS OF THE AFROTROPICAL REGION (2015) by Mark Williams I see he has solilucis as a synonym of flaviana. Haydon Warren-Gash in a personal communication pointed out << that your 'flaviana' is in fact solilucis, presumably from central Cameroon (flaviana comes from Cameroon too, but from the low-lying forests along the coast). It is one of the many errors made by one author in the past and repeated by all the others since >>. As my specimens are from Mt Kala they fall into the possibility of being M solilucis.
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Post by wollastoni on Jun 17, 2016 14:43:35 GMT
mcheki > aren't M. soliculis and B. soliculis the same species ? Would be strange to name such close species with the same name...
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Post by cabintom on Jun 17, 2016 15:12:50 GMT
aren't M. soliculis and B. soliculis the same species ? No, they're not the same species. The Mark Williams work mcheki cites, sources T. Larsen as describing Belenois solilucis Butler, 1874 as a mimic of Mylothris flaviana.
It seems that Haydon Warren-Gash is suggesting the Mylothris solilucis Schultze, 1914 was synonymized with Mylothris flaviana flaviana Grose-Smith, 1898 in error. I wonder, since both M. solilucis and B. solilucis are Pierinae, is the former a valid name? (Perhaps Adam Cotton can chime in?)
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 17, 2016 16:32:11 GMT
Tom said "I wonder, since both M. solilucis and B. solilucis are Pierinae, is the former a valid name?"
If they are both separate species in different genera AND were both originally described in different genera then both names are available. It doesn't matter that they are in the same subfamily, or even tribe as long as they are not placed in the same genus. Whether either name is "VALID" is a different matter - only one name can be valid for each taxon, but the same taxon may have several (or many) available names.
An "available name" is one that has NOT been disqualified for any reason, normally either as a junior homonym or junior objective synonym (in the case of a species or subspecies that would have to be because the second name shares the same holotype as the earlier one, which is generally rare).
THE "valid" name for a taxon (species or subspecies) is the OLDEST available name that applies to the taxon.
An available name can be a junior subjective synonym (as such is still available, but not valid), and it would BECOME the valid name if the previous taxon name was ruled to be unavailable for any reason (there are several possible reasons why this can happen, such as the previously valid name being found to be a junior homonym or infrasubspecific from the original description), and the next oldest available name becomes the VALID name for the species/subspecies.
I hope this helps to clarify the meaning of "available" and "valid" names. The difference can be a little confusing.
Adam.
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Post by africaone on Jun 17, 2016 18:25:55 GMT
what i mean is that solilucis is a belenois nor a Mylothris ... I don't know any Mylothris solilucis even synonym ...
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Post by cabintom on Jun 18, 2016 4:03:28 GMT
I don't know any Mylothris solilucis even synonym ... See Schultze, 1914 Entomologische Rundschau 31: 70. (I can't read German, but here's a link to the description ) Interestingly, you'll notice Schultze also describes a new "form" of Belenois solilucis at the same time.
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Post by africaone on Jun 18, 2016 8:17:41 GMT
waiting for the revision of Mylothris then ...
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