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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 1, 2016 14:56:45 GMT
"Also in the family Apocynaceae and subfamily Apocynoideae, your plant is actually a Catharanthus roseus, from Madagascar but widely cultivated as ornamental over the world and often escaped into the wild."
Yes, this is a common garden plant here in Thailand that has also spread into the wild. I always knew it as Vinca, but it seems Catharanthus roseus is the correct scientific name for the Madagascar periwinkle. I often see larvae of D. nerii on this plant, and also on oleander and other Apocynaceae.
Paul - if you want to find pupae of D. nerii in Bangkok find a large clump of oleander and then feel around in the leaf litter inside the base of the clump. At the right times of year you may find several pupae at the base of a single bush.
Adam.
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Post by cabintom on Jun 1, 2016 15:05:52 GMT
That may be the case with African species, but here in Thailand the dry and wet season forms are quite different, the wet season forms having well developed ocelli. It is also possible that intermediates, or mixed forms may occur in the transition period right at the start or end of each season. Alternatively, you may have several species, some of which always have reduced ocelli. As I already said, I know very little about Satyrinae (especially in Africa) and am only hypothesising possibilities. Adam. It could be this region. I'll give an example though, because I'm thinking I wasn't very clear with what I meant. At the moment, we're in wet season (have been since the end of March) and Melanitis leda is most commonly appearing in its "wet season" form (as expected), but yesterday I pulled a "dry-season" form out of my trap (and this isn't a rare occurrence). I was trying to imply that if it looks strange, it might possibly be an "out-of-season" form. To ramble a bit more, from species to species, it seems that Satyrinae here differ in how closely they follow wet/dry season. Bicyclus vulgaris seems to change forms as the seasons dictate, while in dry season Bicyclus safitza's wet-season form is as common as its dry-season counterpart.
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Post by Paul K on Jun 1, 2016 15:24:23 GMT
" Daphnis nerii can't feed on Impatiens. The plant in your photo is superficially similar looking to an Impatiens walleriana, but actually very unrelated with it, while it's closely related with the main food plant of D. nerii, the oleander (Nerium oleander). Also in the family Apocynaceae and subfamily Apocynoideae, your plant is actually a Catharanthus roseus, from Madagascar but widely cultivated as ornamental over the world and often escaped into the wild." Indeed they look a like impatiens and I am not good in botany. I actually were wondering about the leaves shape more elongate then impatiens which are very common plants in Canadian gardens and I was wonder a bit too as I did not find any info about a food plants of D.nerii including them except one website who's writer must to be fooled also.
Paul
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Post by Paul K on Jun 13, 2016 3:14:52 GMT
First 3 drawers of SE Asian butterflies. Most of the specimens were collected on Ko Tao-Thailand however the list will come when all my work will be finished. Family Pieridae : Ixias pyrene verna Appias lyncida vasava Appias albina darada Appias nero figulina-not found on Ko Tao Appias olferna olferna Cepora nadina nadina-not found on Ko Tao Cepora nerissa dapha Cepora iudith malaya Delias hyparete metarete-not found on Ko Tao Delias hyparete indica-Mainland Thailand Hebomoia glaucippe glaucippe-not found on Ko Tao Family Pieridae: Catopsilia pomona pomona Catopsilia scylia cornelia Catopsilia pyranthe pyranthe Eurema hecabe hecabe Eurema sari sodalis-not found on Ko Tao Eurema simulatrix tecmessaEurema blanda blandaEurema andersoni andersoniGandeca harina dissantiLeptosia nina ninaPareronia anais anaisFamily: NymphalidaeSubfamily: Danainae Euploea klugii erichsonii Euploea core godartii Euploea sylvester harrisii Euploea core graminifera Euploea midamus chloe-not found on Ko Tao Euploea phaenareta castelnaui Euploea modesta modesta-not found on Ko Tao Euploea mulciber mulciber-not found on Ko Tao more to come in near future. Paul
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Post by trehopr1 on Jun 13, 2016 3:38:57 GMT
Very nice indeed Paul K ! You really collected up some nice things across the board. Wonderful selection of species and descent series where possible ! And of coarse, you always do such an exemplary job in your preparation efforts -- my compliments. I see that you seem to have adopted deliasfanatic's (header label) format. A nice touch and looking very professional. I might add that I really like that Euploea species in the third drawer,third column,last two male specimens. Just beautiful... I'm sure if you could have collected more of those males you would have. I know I would have certainly focused my efforts on that one!
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Post by Paul K on Jun 13, 2016 3:51:46 GMT
Thank you Trehopr1
Last two specimens in 3rd row are Euploea sylvester top male and bottom female, they both have this beautiful blue sheen.
Paul
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Post by trehopr1 on Jun 13, 2016 4:33:38 GMT
Thank you Paul for that correction on E. sylvester being a pair and not just two males as I presumed. What a beautiful sight that species is ! I'm sure that blue sheen in the sunlight just boggles the eyes.... Those Delias you managed to get are also really nice. They may be common compared to all those rarities other members show us but, I know I'd have no problem at all filling up a drawer or two with them. Some nice varying amounts of reds, and yellows present there ! Maybe even some melanism as well. Catopsilia scylla is also a very cool species. How very unique. I did manage to get a pair of them myself some years ago from a private collection. Much like yours mine are also fresh looking but, I had to make a stiff trade to get them. I just simply HAD to have that species for my collection. Of coarse, you additionally have the indelible memories of capturing your specimens firsthand !
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Post by Paul K on Jun 17, 2016 13:44:43 GMT
Moduza procris procris -gynandromorph !? Laos, Savannakhet Phin, Nonsa-Art, at riverside 16°32'30"N 105°58'13"E 180m 31 Jan 2015, It looks like left side is the female and right male. The sexes are similar in this species so the diffrence is only in the wing shape. Paul
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Post by Paul K on Jun 17, 2016 13:51:51 GMT
Junonia orithya wallacei male abberation Thailand, Surat Thani Koh Tao, village garden 10°06'04"N 99°50'01"E 24m 5 Jan 2016, Normal male Thailand, Surat Thani Koh Tao,palm plant.clearing 10°05'49"N 99°50'01"E 40m 18 Jan 2016,
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Post by Paul K on Jul 20, 2016 2:20:15 GMT
Papilio daedalusNo...it is not Thailand. Canada-Niagara Falls Butterflies Conservatory. PS. I have finished processing all +/-750 specimens I have collected in Thailand . Photos will come when all of them are sorted. Paul
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Post by deliasfanatic on Jul 20, 2016 3:14:30 GMT
Very nice, Paul. This is actually P. palinurus daedalus from the Philippines; a fairly recent study has separated it into a full species, which I've long suspected. The hindwing bands are very different from palinurus, in which they are angled across the wing, as opposed to being vertical bands here in daedalus.
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Post by Paul K on Jul 20, 2016 3:33:07 GMT
Very nice, Paul. This is actually P. palinurus daedalus from the Philippines; a fairly recent study has separated it into a full species, which I've long suspected. The hindwing bands are very different from palinurus, in which they are angled across the wing, as opposed to being vertical bands here in daedalus. Yes . I was suspecting this is not nominate ssp. which inhabits southern Thailand . Many specimens of butterflies in this place are from Philippines and Costa Rican farms. Interestingly it is not palinurus as I was expecting .
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jul 20, 2016 15:01:56 GMT
Yes, it seems from DNA analysis (Condamine et al. 2013) that palinurus and daedalus diverged about 7 million years ago, and are now distinct species.
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Sept 5, 2016 13:28:02 GMT
I returned from collecting trip in Chiang Mai and Phrae provinces in Thailand. I found Chiang Mai one of the nicest cities in Thailand, modern, clean and has many green spaces inside the city as well as surrounded by beautiful mountains. Very interesting localities and many new species added to my SE Asian collection. Unfortunately it was not a high season for butterflies, however it was good for moth collecting. As it was the first night collecting in Thailand I found many interesting species of Sphingidae, Arctiidae and Noctuidae ( not too much of Saturniidae to my disappointment ). Night collecting in Punjen Hideaway Resort, Wang Chin, Phrae Province. Many Attacus atlas moths had fly around. Very hard to find A1- specimens with its huge wings. Surroundings of Wang Chin town. Rice paddies with the beautiful mountains of Wiang Kosai National Park in the background. Paul
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 5, 2016 14:33:20 GMT
Looks like you had a good time collecting moths. I think there would have been many more butterflies at the beginning of August, rather than late in the month.
Adam.
PS. I corrected a few spellings, including the province name "Phrae", rather than Phree.
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