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Post by antho on Aug 24, 2015 21:55:46 GMT
Apologies for a non-photo post but here is a list of names I compiled in 2008 from some of my specimens. Id like to know any information if at possible. Thanks in advance.
H. Bishop collection No.8 / 2.4.81 / c20H8 F Norton Newman(1893) A Butterfield J F Johnstone R C Hayward H Ashby E Mannering B H Crabtree W Backley A Bowden H&M Leigh S C ? Brown H C Muggings J Hamilton Leigh H C Howard W P Stocks P Eley
NB. I have dates to hand
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Post by wollastoni on Aug 25, 2015 13:02:54 GMT
Peter (nomad) will be able to give you more details about them.
In the meantime, you can use the "Search" button in the menu of the forum, you will find all the mentions about them on the ICF. Example for Newman (be careful, there are several "Newman")
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antho
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Post by antho on Aug 25, 2015 13:54:52 GMT
Brilliant. Thanks. Im just finding my way around the site
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Post by nomad on Aug 25, 2015 17:15:20 GMT
I will let you know what I find out. Are you sure that it is J.F. Johnson and not C.F. Johnson who was an especially active collector in the 1920's and before.
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Post by nomad on Aug 25, 2015 19:29:24 GMT
Hi Andrew. In your list, one named really shone, this was B.H. Crabtree. I had seen and used two of his specimens , which are at Oxford, in my article in the History Section ' The Study of an Extinct Butterfly' . These were two fine males of the extinct race of Plebejus argus masseyi. Benjamin Hill Crabtree made three donations to the Hope Department at Oxford of British Lepidoptera in 1914,1923 and 1925. ( Smith 1986) Crabtree was born at Chorlton Lancs in 1862 and died in 1950 at Cheadle Hulme in Greater Manchester. At one time Crabtree lived at Alderley in Cheshire. Crabtree was a member of the Manchester Entomological Society and was their President in 1905-1906. He was also a Fellow of the Royal Entomological Society. Crabtree had famous British collections full of wonderful and rare aberrations that were sold during his lifetime at Auction. The first, his Aberrations, was sold by Glenining and Company in 1942 and their catalogue run to 12 pages. His Entire collection was sold by Debenham Stoor and Sons in 1946 and their catalogue numbered 28 pages. One of Crabtrees friends was C.F. Johnson, they collected together in Europe and on the Witherslack Mosses in Northern England and probably many times elsewhere. About the person and his other non entomological life I know little.
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Post by nomad on Aug 26, 2015 7:55:16 GMT
There is another name in your list that I know well. This is S.C. Brown. This must be S.C. Scardale Brown, a noted Entomologist from Bournemouth in Dorset. Brown wrote two unpublished manuscripts for the Dorset Natural History and Archaeological Society. The first that he wrote was J.C. Dale of Glanvilles Wooton ( 1980), which I managed to obtain through the above society and this paper became very useful for my article on that entomologist in Section. Scardale Brown visited Oxford to study the letters and diaries of J.C. Dale.
The second manuscript that he wrote was ' A Biographical Account of Some Dorset Entomologists ' ( 1988). This manuscript won the Mansel-Pleydell Prize Essay award for that year .
I have found some Biographical notes on Brown in the Proceedings of the Bournemouth Natural Science Society. The society was established in 1903. Brown became their President but seemed to have left at some point, for an unknown reason, to rejoin again in 1967.
Scardale Brown lived all his life in Bournemouth and was a Dentist. As a young man he was primarily interested in Macrolepidoptera and he met the well known local lepdopterist, W. Parkinson Curtis who told Scardale Brown he had collected with C.W. Dale and the Rev D. Pickard- Cambridge. Parkinson introduced Brown to the world of Microlepidoptera and later Brown became an expect in the genus ' Nepticulidae'. The latter are tiny leaf mining moths. Brown contributed to ' the Illustrated Papers on British Microlepidoptera published in 1978 by the British Entomological and Natural History Society of London and his paper was superbly illustrated by his friend Lt Col Frederick C. Fraser.
Later, Scardale Brown met Philip Harward, one of Britain's finest field entomologists. Harward intoduced Scardale Brown to other insect orders and Brown studied Hemiptera, Coleoptera and Hymenoptera. Scardale Brown became Britains foremost specialist on the Aculeate, the Stinging Wasps of the Hymenoptera.
Scardale Brown also specialized in some of the World's smallest insects, the minute Fairly Flies or Fairy Wasps of the family Mymaridae of the Hymenoptera. The larvae of these tiny parasictic wasps feed inside the eggs of other insects such as Dragonflies. His specimens of Mymaridae were said to be " a joy to behold " and are mounted on microscope slides. The extent of Scardale Brown's painstaking field work is shown by the fact that he found seven Mymaridae new to Britain.
It is said that Scardale Brown loved his garden and his prize Camellias and Lilies, later in life his eyesight went and put an end to his entomological activities. Later, an old man in 1992, he left Bournemouth to live in a villa in Alicante on the coast of Spain.
I expect that S.C. Scardale Brown left most of his collections to the Bournemouth Natural Science Museum but it is at least possible that some went to Auction. He certainly was a dedicated entomologist that added much to science.
It would be interesting if you can let us know, what specimens you have of his and how you obtained them. Perhaps adding an image.
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Post by nomad on Aug 26, 2015 18:11:15 GMT
To add - Scardale Brown's collection went to Auction. It must have been pretty special. R.W. Watson bought the macrolepidoptera and Lord Walter Rothschild bought the microlepidoptera and other insect orders for his Tring Museum. This means they are all in the BMNH. Thanks to Coopera for this information.
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Post by antho on Aug 26, 2015 23:09:19 GMT
Andrew and coopera. Wow. So much information thank you vecoopera indeed. I will need to read it all again. Well my notes dis indicate the name. It will definately be a moth but it well maybe just be the one specimen from each. I will get a photograph no problem. If i remember this was a box a friend bought in the early days of ebay. I can find out mord. Regards
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Post by nomad on Aug 27, 2015 5:04:57 GMT
Andrew the main information on Crabtree and Scardale Brown was sourced my me I am Peter = nomad
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 27, 2015 15:08:10 GMT
Peter, Check the dates in your post about S. C. Brown above. I think they must be 100 years out Adam.
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Post by nomad on Aug 27, 2015 17:10:07 GMT
Peter, Check the dates in your post about S. C. Brown above. I think they must be 100 years out Adam. Scardale Brown was an active collector and entomologist during the period I mention. It was his friend, the then, I imagine old, Parkinson Curtis, who had collected with C.W. Dale. See here archive.org/stream/proceedingsofbou6321bour#page/44/mode/2up
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 27, 2015 21:07:57 GMT
To add - Scardale Brown's collection went to Auction. It must have been pretty special. R.W. Watson bought the macrolepidoptera and Lord Walter Rothschild bought the microlepidoptera and other insect orders for his Tring Museum. This means they are all in the BMNH. Thanks to Coopera for this information. Peter, I am confused. If Lord Walter Rothschild bought Scardale Brown's collection then the dates must be 100 years out. Adam.
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Post by nomad on Aug 28, 2015 5:09:55 GMT
Yes, oops that must be wrong, well spotted Adam, Rothschild could not have bought Scardale's Brown collection, Coopera mentioned that the microlepidoptera went to Tring, which when the collection was sold was part of the BM. The name Tring bought to my mind Rothschild and in this I was wrong. Why the collection went to Tring, if Coopera is right, I did not know, perhaps it was stored there. All the Scardale Brown dates are correct.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 28, 2015 16:23:09 GMT
Ah yes, that makes more sense.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Sept 6, 2015 12:19:57 GMT
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