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Post by mygos on May 17, 2015 18:34:04 GMT
Papilio antimachus pair for sale on ebay ! ebay.frA+, Michel
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Post by wollastoni on May 17, 2015 19:12:56 GMT
WOW thank you for sharing !
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 17, 2015 19:16:19 GMT
The female FW ends look odd - I suspect that it was slightly ragged and trimmed with scissors! Close examination shows that they're not exactly symmetrical.
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Post by cabintom on May 17, 2015 20:55:30 GMT
The female FW ends look odd The antennas on the female look odd as well. (at least to me)
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 17, 2015 21:09:44 GMT
You may be right - the head is at an odd angle, but the antennae look as if they're coming from what's now the uppermost part of the head. Maybe reattached.
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Post by africaone on May 17, 2015 21:26:24 GMT
it is a fake female ! the wings were cut to make like !
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 17, 2015 21:31:41 GMT
it is a fake female ! the wings were cut to make like ! Of course you're right! No wonder it looks so odd!
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Post by africaone on May 17, 2015 21:36:55 GMT
it is a fake female ! the wings were cut to make like ! Of course you're right! No wonder it looks so odd! I sent a message to the ebayer !
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Post by trehopr1 on May 18, 2015 6:26:26 GMT
That's mighty clever and very resourceful. Shows the lengths that unscrupulous people are willing to go for the love of money. Fortunately, sharp eyed members of this forum are quick to expose such larceny and bring it to light for the betterment and knowledge of others. BRAVO to africaone, deliasfanatic, and cabintom ! !
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Post by africaone on May 18, 2015 6:50:01 GMT
That's mighty clever and very resourceful. Shows the lengths that unscrupulous people are willing to go for the love of money. Fortunately, sharp eyed members of this forum are quick to expose such larceny and bring it to light for the betterment and knowledge of others. BRAVO to africaone, deliasfanatic, and cabintom ! ! I wrote to the ebayer to make some classic verification (to be sure, my judgment is made only on a picture that is not the most reliable method). In case of positive answer, it is probable that the seller has been abused by his provider and is also a victim ( I hope for him)
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Post by nomad on May 18, 2015 7:10:31 GMT
Another rather sad attempt to make money out of insect collectors with a fake specimen. Well spotted Danny.
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Post by timmsyrj on May 18, 2015 9:52:17 GMT
Another one! I notice the guy that bought the "blue form of victoriae" off ebay is not happy with it, it's gone a horrible colour with humidity and ebay aren't going to do anything because they say he altered the butterfly by relaxing and re setting it, apparently this happens to U.V treated specimens when they become humid. He's lost a lot of money on a fake, sorry for him but it was discussed on the forums.
Rich
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Post by wollastoni on May 18, 2015 10:21:15 GMT
Well spotted Danny and Thierry ! Human creativity will always amaze me...
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Post by africaone on May 18, 2015 10:48:52 GMT
I bet they are some in collection
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Post by deliasfanatic on May 18, 2015 13:44:33 GMT
For comparison and reference, here is a genuine female. The hindwings are much smaller than the males', as is the entire specimen. P antimachus F 5145 by D B, on Flickr
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