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Post by deliasfanatic on Sept 18, 2016 19:25:28 GMT
Yes, I see both.
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Post by nomad on Sept 19, 2016 7:33:51 GMT
cabintom have you encountered any of these Charaxes in West Africa, not the last shown of course. Not collecting Charaxes are these all common species, they seem to be ,as prices for specimens are low. I must admit some are very beautiful. Strange that Heslop did so very little collecting in Africa, he seems to have preferred to hunt bigger prey and spent his leave in England collecting butterflies.
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Post by cabintom on Sept 19, 2016 14:37:43 GMT
I'm at the north-eastern end of D.R. Congo, so I'm more "central Africa" than "west Africa". Both C. etesipe and C. tiridates are fairly common (actually, Robert Ducarme claims tiridates is the most common Charaxes in this part of the country, though my experience has been different as I see a lot more C. brutus. Though he's collected extensively in forest, and I'm in savanna.) 7/X/2015 Beni, Nord Kivu, DRC (0°29'N, 29°28'E) 1180m 8/VI/2015 Kasugho, Nord Kivu, DRC (ex. R. Ducarme)
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Post by africaone on Sept 19, 2016 15:16:52 GMT
you have a range of common Charaxes species that can be more or less extremely common following localities (that turns around : tiridates, lucretius, brutus, candiope, macclounii or boueti (in Bamboo biotopes), guderiana (one time, I had 160 in 5 traps in 1 day) .... I probably forgot some other
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Post by nomad on Jan 14, 2017 11:16:16 GMT
A few Papilio machaon britannicus from Wicken Fen in Cambridgeshire from the Heslop collection, including a strange aberration. In spite of Wicken Fen being bought by the National Trust by Charles Rothschild and others in 1910, mainly to safeguard its entomological treasures for visiting entomologists, after the tragic death of Rothschild the reserve between 1923 and the 1950s saw a long period of neglect by the N.T. owners and P. machaon became extinct during the 1950s. This was last station for Papilio machaon outside of the Norfolk Broads. All attempts at its reintroduction to the fen have failed.
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Post by nomad on Jan 14, 2017 12:53:43 GMT
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2017 16:06:29 GMT
Strange how every so often an aberration of Graphium sarpedon appears with a green spot in the forewing cell - very nice.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Jan 15, 2017 9:31:48 GMT
Adam Cotton Is there any reason that Heslop would have placed type labels by any of his specimens I have shown. I expect you have all of those from Upper Burma. Are specimens easy to get today from that location?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 15, 2017 14:21:45 GMT
Adam Cotton Is there any reason that Heslop would have placed type labels by any of his specimens I have shown. I expect you have all of those from Upper Burma. Are specimens easy to get today from that location? No reason at all as far as I can see why any of them should actually be types. Tytler named some Burmese subspecies in 1939, but not among the illustrated species. 'Upper Burma' generally refers to Kachin State, but technically the area to the west in Sagaing State (near Naga Hills of India) is also 'upper'. From the mid 1990s onwards quite a number of specimens have been coming out of Kachin and Sagaing states, although less in the past few years. Adam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 20:32:17 GMT
Interesting to see the case of African butterflies, on a recent trip to Watkins and Doncaster I was lucky enough to find in the old collections 9 specimens of E Francina, 5 males and 4 females including a specimen of the SSP exuberans, the one with no orange markings and 4 specimens of the equally rare bebearia arcadius, 3 males and a female, naturally I was highly delighted with the find of a lifetime, all needed some degree of resetting and they will remain on the boards for a month in the airing cupboard just to make sure, I will add pictures when they are off.
Sadly I can find very little literature on either of these very rare butterflies and no dealer has them for sale, ever, so any information would be gratefully received.
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Post by nomad on Feb 3, 2017 20:51:33 GMT
Sounds like your trip to Watkins was very special. That is some haul. I always wondered if Watkins still sold dead stock, any Delias seen.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 3, 2017 21:07:09 GMT
I think that W&D sell whatever is in the old cabinets they buy to refurbish and sell off at profit, rather than really dealing in insects.
Adam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 21:10:55 GMT
Yes Peter there was some Delias but don't ask me what species they were as I have no clue. I picked up some rare South American papiliondae, pair of alopius, papilio rogeri and pharnaces, and some beautiful British moth abs, I will post pictures of those tomorrow.
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Post by nomad on Feb 3, 2017 21:27:31 GMT
dunc, that's great congrats. I look forward to seeing your images, Yes they probably buy old cabinets and sell the stock, only on site, but it seems certainly worth a visit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 21:39:04 GMT
I became aware during my visit that it would be British butterflies that would command a premium price so I kept my purchases of these to a minimum
In truth if this is the way they obtain their specimens as I'm sure it is, I would think that most of the cream would have gone now, however having said that I did manage to obtain an incredible ab of danaus plexippus, again I will post a picture tomorrow.
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