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Post by quanttum on May 25, 2019 12:58:54 GMT
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 25, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
It's a brown lacewing (order Neuroptera). If you want a more accurate identification than that you will have to tell us where in the WORLD you photographed it, and maybe someone here who knows the lacewings could identify it properly.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on May 26, 2019 8:58:24 GMT
I am always at a lost to note that people take the trouble to ask for identification of an insect, yet provide no details at all, type of habitat, locality, the date when found, and often not even the country where it was found. We live on a big planet with many thousands of different insect species, and even if you have those details that I mentioned, a specimen may need to be examined by an expert, but at least if you take the trouble to add them, you have at least have a chance of getting an ID from the many knowledgeable entomologists who are members of this forum.
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Post by jmg on May 27, 2019 17:13:20 GMT
"a good first step would be that schools, worldwide, would stop wasting students time on teaching something as useless as religion and instead focus on educating them on such things as understanding nature and the environment." Please, go to Pakistan, USA (Bible belt) or others such countries to organize a reform in the education system ! Would be positive ! But first, take a life insurance and write your last wishes.  |
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Post by exoticimports on May 28, 2019 1:20:13 GMT
I am always at a lost to note that people take the trouble to ask for identification of an insect, yet provide no details at all, type of habitat, locality, the date when found, and often not even the country where it was found. We live on a big planet with many thousands of different insect species, and even if you have those details that I mentioned, a specimen may need to be examined by an expert, but at least if you take the trouble to add them, you have at least have a chance of getting an ID from the many knowledgeable entomologists who are members of this forum. Lighten up. So often I’ve been told of a found butterfly with a 2’ wingspan that’s red and brown. Clearly nothing more than a common cecropia but to the finder it must be a new species! When something is new, does one know what to look for or what is important? Could you, for example, query experts with sufficient information to differentiate between a VSM Vickers and a Turkish contract Vickers? Or a 1973 Trans Am against a 1974 Camaro? A Hallberg-Rassey vs. an Oyster? Cayman vs crocodile? Even a boiled vs raw egg? Chuck Before you criticize a man walk a mile in his shoes. That way you have a mile lead, and his shoes. |
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Post by nomad on May 29, 2019 7:06:53 GMT
ighten up. So often I’ve been told of a found butterfly with a 2’ wingspan that’s red and brown. Clearly nothing more than a common cecropia but to the finder it must be a new species! When something is new, does one know what to look for or what is important? Could you, for example, query experts with sufficient information to differentiate between a VSM Vickers and a Turkish contract Vickers? Or a 1973 Trans Am against a 1974 Camaro? A Hallberg-Rassey vs. an Oyster? Cayman vs crocodile? Even a boiled vs raw egg? Chuck Before you criticize a man walk a mile in his shoes. That way you have a mile lead, and his shoes. Pointing out you need more information for identification, at least a spot on the globe is hardly criticizing. As Adam has to point out time and time again... and no way merits your irrelevant sarcastic and silly comments. |
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Post by exoticimports on May 29, 2019 13:41:27 GMT
ighten up. So often I’ve been told of a found butterfly with a 2’ wingspan that’s red and brown. Clearly nothing more than a common cecropia but to the finder it must be a new species! When something is new, does one know what to look for or what is important? Could you, for example, query experts with sufficient information to differentiate between a VSM Vickers and a Turkish contract Vickers? Or a 1973 Trans Am against a 1974 Camaro? A Hallberg-Rassey vs. an Oyster? Cayman vs crocodile? Even a boiled vs raw egg? Chuck Before you criticize a man walk a mile in his shoes. That way you have a mile lead, and his shoes. Pointing out you need more information for identification, at least a spot on the globe is hardly criticizing. As Adam has to point out time and time again... and no way merits your irrelevant sarcastic and silly comments. I owe you an apology. My reply, written to be concise while on a phone, reads rather roughly. My point is that an ID of “lacewing” is more than satisfactory for queries from laymen, and typically we don’t need to know many details in order to provide an answer that is “good enough” I do find it interesting, even questionable, when an advanced ID is requested and the location is “needed” for ID. One would reasonably think that we should be able to ID a well photographed specimen without capture data. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 29, 2019 14:30:31 GMT
I do find it interesting, even questionable, when an advanced ID is requested and the location is “needed” for ID. One would reasonably think that we should be able to ID a well photographed specimen without capture data. Many different species look pretty much identical externally, but are obviously not the same species when characters that cannot be seen in a photo are taken into consideration, such as genitalia. Usually locality data (even US/Europe for example) is enough to give a more accurate identification than just a photo without any other information at all. I seem to remember that details of wing venation are important characters in many Neuroptera, and it's not possible to see everything from a photo such as the one taken by quanttum purely because of the way lacewings sit. I expect that he/she is happy with the original answer. Adam. |
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Post by nomad on May 29, 2019 19:12:02 GMT
I must say here that my comments were regarding insect identification in general, rather than just the Brown Lacewing that Adam had named and unless your are a Lacewing expert and have a specimen, it would as I have already mentioned, often be impossible to get you to species. Photographing all British insect orders, I know that very often, even with popular groups, a photograph is not sufficient to always get you to species, and in many instances you are going to need a specimen, either to key out or send to an expert. I am sure it helps that when people ask for an ID, to just mention when and where you found the insect that you wish named.
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