777
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Post by 777 on Oct 24, 2018 21:40:21 GMT
I would sometimes see pictures of live swallowtail butterflies and see pinned ones and wondered why the wings were far apart from each other on the pinned ones. I usually like spreading my butterflies in their natural flying position, but now Iโm wondering if doing that is the incorrect way. Any thoughts?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 24, 2018 22:19:49 GMT
They are spread in an unnatural position so that the majority of the wing surfaces can be examined. Much of the time in nature the forewings cover much of the hindwings, and that is not very useful to look at in a collection, either aesthetically or scientifically.
Adam.
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777
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Post by 777 on Oct 25, 2018 0:45:10 GMT
They are spread in an unnatural position so that the majority of the wing surfaces can be examined. Much of the time in nature the forewings cover much of the hindwings, and that is not very useful to look at in a collection, either aesthetically or scientifically. Adam. Thank you! Fortunately, I expose the hindwings enough to throughly see them.
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 26, 2018 12:17:47 GMT
They are spread in an unnatural position so that the majority of the wing surfaces can be examined. Much of the time in nature the forewings cover much of the hindwings, and that is not very useful to look at in a collection, either aesthetically or scientifically. Adam. Thank you! Fortunately, I expose the hindwings enough to throughly see them. One can either pose a butterfly naturally, or one can expose key identifiers, not both. Specifically, the costa region of the hindwing UPS
Chuck
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ren
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Post by ren on Oct 29, 2018 18:38:35 GMT
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Post by mygos on Oct 29, 2018 19:28:29 GMT
Your link give me this answer : 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons A+, Michel
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 29, 2018 20:20:42 GMT
It opened successfully when I tried it.
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 29, 2018 20:25:56 GMT
Half a million dollars grant for farming P.cresphontes? Wow!!! And 200-300 people will have a job farming this one species? The idea is great but for some reasons I think those founds will disappear who knows where and what for.
Donโt get me wrong I still think is better to give native people some cash than bring and pay huge amount of taxpayers money for Muslims flooding Canada.
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Post by mygos on Oct 29, 2018 22:04:16 GMT
It opened successfully when I tried it. Adam. I am afraid I live in the wrong place : 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact web@tulsaworld.com or call 918-581-8300. A+, Michel
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 30, 2018 12:17:15 GMT
Half a million dollars grant for farming P.cresphontes? Wow!!! And 200-300 people will have a job farming this one species? The idea is great but for some reasons I think those founds will disappear who knows where and what for. Donโt get me wrong I still think is better to give native people some cash than bring and pay huge amount of taxpayers money for Muslims flooding Canada.
Typical government promises, and over-inflated estimates of value to the community.
"Wind said some tribal members were skeptical about the project originally, but the grant helped eliminate that." Yeah, I'd be un-skeptical if somebody gave me half a million too.
What they should be skeptical about is getting the recipients motivated enough to do the work. Wait till they find out that raising butterflies takes effort. That's always the problem I had the tropics- everybody wants a butterfly net so they can get rich. Then you tell them about how they have to catch them, use foreceps to get them out, package them properly, etc and all of a sudden all the interest is lost...it's too much like...work.
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Post by nomad on Oct 30, 2018 12:41:50 GMT
It opened successfully when I tried it. Adam. I get the same message as Michel.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 30, 2018 13:02:24 GMT
It opened successfully when I tried it. Adam. I get the same message as Michel. Top secret, highly confidential enterprise by government of United States of America. ๐๐๐
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Post by deliasfanatic on Oct 30, 2018 13:31:07 GMT
Google VPN
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 30, 2018 15:36:42 GMT
It opened successfully when I tried it. Adam. I get the same message as Michel. Presumably after not so great Britain leaves the EU finally (after the transition period, however long it ends up being) you should then be able to access the webpage. However, it may be that the UK will continue to be covered by this EU law. If so, try a VPN. If you use Chrome browser I suggest downloading Windscribe. It only works as an extension of Chrome browser so cannot be used on other browsers, but the free version allows 10GB of browsing per month and is very easy to use. Adam.
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Post by nomad on Oct 30, 2018 16:20:05 GMT
Gosh they are penalizing us already. God Save the Queen and Britannia.
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