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Post by EarlyStages on Oct 25, 2018 3:16:57 GMT
Any photos of the larva or pupa? One or both alone will speak volumes about its taxonomy, as will knowing the hostplant. Immatures conserve characters of older/sister lineages, diverging less than the more specialized adults.
Keith
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 25, 2018 7:40:02 GMT
Unfortunately neither early stages nor foodplant are currently known.
Adam.
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Post by nomad on Oct 30, 2018 13:57:17 GMT
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 31, 2018 16:13:13 GMT
I get search not found message. No article
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 31, 2018 16:16:59 GMT
However, the male doesn't have an anal scent fold on the hindwing, and the hindwing cell is not bent (all Graphium species have a bend in the hindwing cell). Adam. Ah yes, I didn’t remember about scent fold and I didn’t know about bend cell. Very interesting species and beautiful. This is also surprising that it only occurs on one island only and in one particular location. The Fiji islands are relatively close to each other so I wonder what keeps individuals on one only location (at least one know to this day) May guess would be foodplant as we can read on paper that 5% of plants are endemic to Natewa Peninsula. Fiji Solomons Vanuatu are so poorly studied we have no idea the known range of most butterflies. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Post by trehopr1 on Oct 31, 2018 18:25:07 GMT
Well put indeed exoticimports !
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Post by nomad on Nov 1, 2018 8:00:12 GMT
I get search not found message. No article I have contacted Oxford, it was working fine when I added the link, but there seems to be a technical hitch and they will be looking into it, hopefully the link will be working again soon.
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Post by nomad on Nov 9, 2018 8:57:19 GMT
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Post by wollastoni on Nov 9, 2018 9:01:58 GMT
Too bad, there is no picture of Danny eating his hat ! Great article, thanks for the link !
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 9, 2018 11:53:55 GMT
How many new species would be discovered if nations were friendly to amateur entomologists (and other students of science)?
In almost every country now, collecting insects is forbidden, often on the perception that prized national treasures are going to be stolen without compensation. Some banana republic idiots believe the hype that collecting will wipe out an unknown species- a view promulgated by UN, CITES (which is UN), and even USFWS.
In most cases, decision makers at the foreign equivalent of USFWS (well, including USFWS) are in the positions of power because they have more political talent than scientific. They are bureaucrats, and bureaucracy to them is more important than discovery. So, they want to know, what's in it for them?
Furthermore, it's a rare chance for local wildlife managers to flex muscle- it's not often they get to tell a white American or European "NO". Really pumps them up. And, being power-flexing bureaucrats they like to play the paperwork game- it took Tennent six months of ass-kissing to get a permit for PNG; in a personal case, I tried to contact the decision maker in Palau for months before going there, then while I was there- no response.
As well, I think the professional entomologists are largely behind this. It's a threat to their esteem and job. Discoveries would flow quickly if amateurs were allowed to do research. This, of course, "could be fraught with errors" and should be discouraged (and is- try to get something published.)
So we have a valuable resource- amateur scientists willing to spend their own money- that is squandered. Sad.
Chuck
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 9, 2018 13:30:25 GMT
Chuck,
Did you see/catch any Papilionidae while in Palau? I would be very interested to hear about them if you did. There seems to be a native population of Graphium macfarlanei, and also Papilio alphenor (often called polytes) as well as probably imported P. xuthus and protenor.
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 14, 2018 18:19:52 GMT
If anyone needs a natewa pair ! There is one for sale in the Classifieds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 20:59:55 GMT
How on earth did Banko get hold of those so quickly? I've dealt with him before and he is top drawer but that is QUICK.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 14, 2018 21:04:59 GMT
2 Japanese groups went to Fiji last month and took a few specimens back with them. Meanwhile give me a little time and I will post some interesting stuff for everyone here, hopefully tomorrow.
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on Dec 14, 2018 21:05:38 GMT
This is the first ever photo of the upperside of a female. Hahaha Laurie I was SURE you would be the first to go and collect them. Congrats for having found the female!
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