civix
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Post by civix on Nov 12, 2017 21:00:35 GMT
Hello,
I've some Lyssa from several islands (around malaysia, philippines, ...)
Is there some datas to id them thanks to the data location ??
Thank you
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 12, 2017 21:20:21 GMT
I think there may be more than one species in the same places, so I guess that just locality data will not be enough to identify them. Here in Thailand the commonest species is Lyssa zampa as far as I know, but I think there are several species present.
Adam.
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Post by jmg on Nov 13, 2017 1:26:14 GMT
According the new book (in italian) Uranie, Castnie e Saturnie di Roberto Vinciguerra, A cura di Alfonso Iorio e Alberto Zilli, Natura Edizioni Scientifiche, 2016the genus Lyssa Hübner, (1823) has seven species : Lyssa patroclus (Buru, Obi, Morotai, Bachan, Morobe), L. menoetius (Kalimantan, Sabah), L. macleayi (Fakfak, Bachan), L. zampa (Thailand, Myanmar, Sabah, Kalimantan : several subspecies), L. mutata (Guadalcanal, Malaita), L. curvata and L. toxopeusi (Fakfak). I collected L. zampa in SE Asia (Thailand, Pa lawan), L. menoetius (Sabah) and L. macleayi in Arfak. The moth was very common, but very common, in Palawan around Port Barton.
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Post by Paul K on Nov 13, 2017 3:26:21 GMT
I just want to add that Lyssa zampa is also very common in central Laos and Eastern Thailand, although it is protected species in Thailand. We had a dinner on the shore of Mekong river in Savannaket sometime in October and there were many of them flying around the lights. Beautiful moth.
Paul
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 13, 2017 7:00:57 GMT
I just want to add that Lyssa zampa is also very common in central Laos and Eastern Thailand, although it is protected species in Thailand. Actually it isn't. It was originally proposed as a protected species, but was removed because it was found to be seasonally common, even in Bangkok. Adam.
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Post by jmg on Nov 13, 2017 10:22:27 GMT
In Sabah, Sepilok where there is a park dedicated to the conservation of orangutans (apes), Lyssa menoetius flew in the restaurant of the hotel, without the need to install a collect device at night.
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Post by jmg on Nov 13, 2017 10:27:24 GMT
And from West Papua, in Mokwam (Arfak Mountains) :
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Post by Paul K on Nov 13, 2017 15:42:58 GMT
I just want to add that Lyssa zampa is also very common in central Laos and Eastern Thailand, although it is protected species in Thailand. Actually it isn't. It was originally proposed as a protected species, but was removed because it was found to be seasonally common, even in Bangkok. Adam. I see, it is listed on this website www.dnp.go.th/fig/protected_brochure_E.htm but I suppose the list there must be incorrect. Paul
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 13, 2017 17:58:59 GMT
Yes, that link has not been updated since Lyssa zampa was removed from protection. The listing has also been changed to remove Troides aeacus from full protection, rather than the general Troides spp. in the website. Of course CITES regulations still apply to this species.
Here is a list of the 20 species now given full protection under Thai law (from Hutacharern et al. 2007):
1. Cheirotonus parryi 2. Prosopocoilus (Cladognathus) giraffa 3. Mouhotia batesi 4. Mormolyce phyllodes 5. Teinopalpus imperialis 6. Troides amphrysus 7. Troides helena 8. Stichophthalma godfreyi 9. Stichophthalma cambodia 10. Stichophthalma louisa II. Stichophthalma camadeva 12. Bhutanitis lidderdalii 13. Papilio protenor 14. Meandrusa sciron* 15. Meandrusa payeni 16. Papilio palinurus 17. Actias rhodopneuma 18. Actias maenas 19. Actias selene 20. Actias sinensis
* Note this is a misidentification of Meandrusa lachinus, M. sciron is a separate species from China.
Adam.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 13, 2017 20:12:48 GMT
Which species is in Solomon Islands?
Chuck
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