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Post by Paul K on Oct 17, 2017 14:24:58 GMT
This specimen was collected in February in Kaw Mt., French Guiana. I have tried to id it but due to many genus very similar in this subfamily I simply gave up and I am looking for help of Satyrinae specialist.   |
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Post by Paul K on Oct 18, 2017 1:29:34 GMT
No Satyrinae specialist around this time ?
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 18, 2017 7:12:39 GMT
Give us some time  These are not easy indeed. I will have to check in my books this week-end. |
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Post by mygos on Oct 18, 2017 17:37:33 GMT
From the litterature I have it could be one of these 3 species :
Magneuptychia newtoni
Paryphthimoides undulata
Spleudeuptychia itonis
A+, Michel
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Post by Paul K on Oct 18, 2017 23:33:32 GMT
From the litterature I have it could be one of these 3 species : Magneuptychia newtoni Paryphthimoides undulata Spleudeuptychia itonis A+, Michel When I searched website “ Butterflies of America “ I came up to the same more or less point that it could be one of those, but which one. Thank you Michel anyway, let’s hope someone will confirm the species or maybe in this case ganitalia has to be checked. Paul |
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Post by neominois on Oct 19, 2017 22:06:04 GMT
These are very difficult to identify. I have the same issue with these guys that I collected in Peru. I narrowed them down to what I thought it might be and assigned them names... Are they correct? I'm not sure, could they be correct? Yes... Too many that look the same in Satyrinae. I'm sure you could dissect the genitalia, and key them out if you had the proper literature.
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Post by jmg on Oct 20, 2017 8:29:09 GMT
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Post by Paul K on Oct 20, 2017 12:51:01 GMT
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Post by Paul K on Nov 17, 2017 5:44:25 GMT
Another Satyrinae to ID, please... Euptychia rufocincta? Magneuptychia h. harpyia? or Cissia sp?   |
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Post by Paul K on Nov 20, 2017 22:16:54 GMT
Hm, I believe JMG is now chasing some leps in F.Guiana and no other would want to try this one.
I guess will have to wait.
Paul
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Post by jmg on Dec 22, 2017 0:51:12 GMT
The second satyrinae (yellowish) seems to be : Euptychia neildi Brévignon, 2005.
I'm back in Paris after one month spent in French Guyane.
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Post by Paul K on Dec 22, 2017 5:35:45 GMT
Thanks JMG for determination this species.
Paul
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Post by jmg on Dec 24, 2017 11:54:57 GMT
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Post by Paul K on Dec 24, 2017 13:10:09 GMT
JMG I am confused by your last posts.
The specimen on those two photos is one and the same.
First pictures shows upper side and second under side.
I noticed too they are very simmilar on both sides.
Paul
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Post by jmg on Dec 24, 2017 16:59:50 GMT
Sorry !  I'm too so confused. I was thinking that there were two species underside. And yet, I was amazed at the lack of legend for the second picture! Yes, strongly magnifying the first picture, I see now that it is a dorsal surface.  Especially for these Satyrinae, the most common use is to present them by the ventral side, as in Kim Garwood's book, Butterflies of Amazonia. Since this is the same butterfly, I tend to think that it is Euptychia picea A. Butler, 1867.  |
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I'm too so confused. I was thinking that there were two species underside. And yet, I was amazed at the lack of legend for the second picture! Yes, strongly magnifying the first picture, I see now that it is a dorsal surface. 
Especially for these Satyrinae, the most common use is to present them by the ventral side, as in Kim Garwood's book, Butterflies of Amazonia.
