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Post by timmsyrj on Aug 19, 2016 15:20:27 GMT
nomad , what did you discover in Snowdonia Wales, this summer. I just moved to Manchester from Southern Germany, and was quite delighted to see some nice Hipparchia semele, when I went to the beach near Formby last weekend. I am really interested in good butterflies areas around here and Snowdonia is not too far away. Best greetings Formby dunes nature reserve (an area of many undulating sand dunes) used to have loads of dark green fritillaries years ago when I used to collect here (before it was a nature reserve I think), walking amongst the dunes away from the coast they would assemble in hundreds some times to roost in sheltered pockets on grasses out of the wind. If you went to early in the evening you can disturb them and the whole lot would fly off. 5am is even better time to go, they're too cold to fly off. Rich
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Post by nomad on Aug 19, 2016 15:41:02 GMT
nomad , what did you discover in Snowdonia Wales, this summer. I just moved to Manchester from Southern Germany, and was quite delighted to see some nice Hipparchia semele, when I went to the beach near Formby last weekend. I am really interested in good butterflies areas around here and Snowdonia is not too far away. Best greetings Unfortunately due to very unforeseen circumstances, I had to cancel all my plans for the year including Snowdonia on my return from Switzerland. Hotel booked, special permits in place (very hard to get). Best laid plans of mice and men. Glad you saw Hipparchia semele there is a nice dwarf race thyone on the Great Ormes Head in North Wales.
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Post by luehdorfia on Aug 19, 2016 16:06:34 GMT
Rich, that sounds amazing. It must have been a beautiful sight, I never saw more than three or four dark green fritillaries at once in Germany. I was in Formby on the 14th of August, probably already too late for them. I only saw many peacocks,about 5-6 Hipparchia semele, one aglais urticae, several vanessa atalanta, and two pyronia tithonus as far as I could tell. What time of the year did you see the flocks of dark green fritillaries?
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Post by luehdorfia on Aug 19, 2016 16:10:13 GMT
Nomad, that is really unfortunate, I would have loved to see some pictures of Snwodonian butterflies. I will have a look at the f.thyone on the Great Ormes Head in North Wales, if I can still make it next week when the sun comes out again, but probably also quite late for this year. Do you get a special permit for collecting or is it bound to scientific research?
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Post by nomad on Aug 19, 2016 16:36:10 GMT
Collecting Permits will not be issued for the Great Ormes Head especially not for its rare butterflies, it states that it is a nature reserve of Conwy County Borough Countryside Service. The area, which is 2 miles (3.2 km) long by 1 mile (1.6 km) wide, has a number of protective designations including Special Area of Conservation, Heritage Coast, Country Park, and Site of Special Scientific Interest. So collecting is a no go there. You will find that collecting here is very different to perhaps in Germany. The permits I mentioned in my last post, was just to be able to visit certain nature reserves not to collect there. Here is a thread with some images of a previous visit to the Great Ormes. See collector-secret.proboards.com/thread/137/north-wales-search-endemic-butterfliesI hope you can see that even without a net it is still worth a visit.
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